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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:06 pm to Tigerlaff
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:06 pm to Tigerlaff
Good looking tree! My Pickering is about to hit that period where it’s going to have to start shedding fruit. It’s holding way too much IMHO. If it doesn’t drop some I’m going to have to start plucking the smaller ones.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:23 pm to wiltznucs
Yep. It's that time of the spring. My lime tree is dropping hundreds of tiny limelets each day. Same with my lemon guava. Both trees are LOADED top to bottom and couldn't possibly carry it all to maturity but I can dream.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:31 pm to Tigerlaff
Dang! Inside at 50! I may need to re think the pot I just put it in. It’s a large terracotta probably 30” diameter..don’t want to be hauling that in and outside. What size would be good for it long term may try to find a nicer plastic pot. Plan to use Gary’s mix ratio ..I watched way too many YouTube videos on his channel lol. Thanks!
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:09 pm to DickTater
None of my trees even have flowers. Not even my lemon
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:41 am to DickTater
Giant heavy clay pot is a mistake. You need to be able to easily move this. What you want are injection molded black nursery pots and then you drill extra holes in the bottom. For a guava, it will eventually need at least a 15gal pot but you can start smaller, like 7gal. My large ones are in 25gal.
Gary's soil mix is ELITE. Best thing I have ever done for my potted plants and trees. He is a prophet.
Gary's soil mix is ELITE. Best thing I have ever done for my potted plants and trees. He is a prophet.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 5:47 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:45 am to Neauxla
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None of my trees even have flowers. Not even my lemon
Did they take a lot of cold damage? Did you fertilize?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:06 am to Tigerlaff
Will swap pots and find something more mobile ! Do you keep the soil wetter since in a pot and good drainage? Some reading online says they are thirsty plants (ruby supreme)
Do you have any dragon fruit ?
Do you have any dragon fruit ?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:32 am to Tigerlaff
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Couple of new pygmy date palms.
I love the aesthetics of the Pygmy date palms, but have found it extremely cold sensitive on the northern gulf coast.
I’ve used large incandescent Christmas lights and even pipe tape warmers wrapped around the tree and have covered the smaller trees but none made it through the recent snow event.
Any advice or tips on how to winter cold snap prep those trees? With the massive thorns around the base I’ve become a little gun shy working with them too much because they will go straight through even well made leather gloves if you aren’t very careful.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:00 am to DickTater
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Will swap pots and find something more mobile ! Do you keep the soil wetter since in a pot and good drainage? Some reading online says they are thirsty plants (ruby supreme)
I posted an Amazon link to some great pot caddies with wheels earlier in this thread. Really helps with moving these things around. I would not say guava are particularly thirsty plants. They will however take a lot of water, meaning they are difficult to overwater and cause rot. Lychee and Jamaican cherry? My god, now those are thirsty plants and you better not let them dry out.
No I do not grow dragon fruit and I don't recommend them for the gulf south. They are vining habit cacti and need hot dry heat, full sun, large pots with very heavy sand soil, and a very heavy/sturdy trellis to climb. We're talking easily over 100lbs to do it right. Some youtubers literally make their trellises out of concrete. Very very difficult to move and they hate our humidity and cold. Ideal humidity is no more than 50%.
But again, this thread ain't for pussies. If you think you can do it, go for it and tell conventional wisdom to STFU! Master gardener in my neighborhood told me I could never grow lychee but those things are pushing new growth as we speak.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:05 am to tide06
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Any advice or tips on how to winter cold snap prep those trees?
Yes. Grow them in pots.
They are naturally dwarf in habit and the pot makes that even more so. Not picky about soil as long as it drains. They also require only indirect light and will do just fine indoors near a window. Mine sit on my front porch flanking the door. No direct sun ever, protected from frost by the roof, pulled inside the front door when temps drop below 28F. You have to get as far south as like Tampa before these things are reliably hardy.
If you're determined to grow in ground my advice is sacrifice the fronds and put all effort into wrapping the trunk with a heat source, especially the growth spear at the top.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 8:07 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:59 am to Tigerlaff
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If you're determined to grow in ground my advice is sacrifice the fronds and put all effort into wrapping the trunk with a heat source, especially the growth spear at the top.
That was my approach last go around.
I wrapped the top “crown” in a pipe tape warmer and even with a permeable frost blanket the snow smoked them. My meat thermometer said it was a full 7 degrees warmer than the ambient air but maybe the snow was the fatal factor?
I have an elevated covered porch so t taking the pots up a few steps at the size I’m shooting for probably isn’t practical.
Maybe temporary PVC pipe covers built to a suitable height with plastic sheeting would do the job for areas where taller palms aren’t suitable?
But based on your feedback I will cycle them out in areas that will allow taller options like Pindos to avoid fighting what might ultimately be a losing proposition.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:38 am to tide06
The only truly reliable method is to build a pvc or wood frame and essentially build a tiny plastic greenhouse around them with a heat source inside. Too much effort for a palm for me.
Pindos are tanks. If you don't mind palmate fronds look at Mexican fan palm and Trachycarpus fortuneii.
Pindos are tanks. If you don't mind palmate fronds look at Mexican fan palm and Trachycarpus fortuneii.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:03 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:39 am to Tigerlaff
Someone in this thread was asking when feijoa / pineapple guava is supposed to bloom. The answer is now:


This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:10 pm to Tigerlaff
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Pindos are tanks
I think they’re the most underrated palm around.
Inexpensive, pretty aesthetics, cold hardy and don’t get so tall as to require professional trimming.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:42 pm to tide06
You forgot the delicious fruit!
Posted on 4/5/25 at 2:45 pm to Tigerlaff
I’ll go check mine later. Last I checked there was only new leaf growth on the tips.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:42 pm to audioguy
Got the guava potted up. Ended up just using a 7 gallon pot since I probably didn’t have enough perlite to go straight to the bigger one. Mix was 1/1/1 peat/sand/perlite. Added a handful of azomite and osmocote to the top and then covered with roughly an inch of compost and a handful of dr earth. I’ll mulch it with a handful of leaves later. Fingers crossed it’ll take off and be happy.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:19 pm to audioguy
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Mix was 1/1/1 peat/sand/perlite. Added a handful of azomite and osmocote to the top and then covered with roughly an inch of compost and a handful of dr earth. I’ll mulch it with a handful of leaves later. Fingers crossed it’ll take off and be happy.
You have just made a soil mix that is better than what 99% of people on earth would buy or make. It will breath. It will drain. It will last for years. It will be almost impossible to overwater. And all you have to to do is top off with fresh compost and fertilizer each year. You're not going to believe what this thing will look like by September.
And I promise you, someone is going to tell you you're doing it wrong because "tHe SoiL nEeDs NoOtRiEnTs" and will tell you repot in wood chips or cow manure or some other bullshite. Just look at them and smile.
I've got two 7ft tall ruby supreme trees covered in new foliage and flowers 15 feet away from me that are growing in sand, pumice, perlite, and peat. Compost and fertilizer sits on the top only.
The single drawback is that you have to water more in the summer, a small price to pay for, you know, not rotting your roots and killing your tree.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:43 pm to Tigerlaff
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Compost and fertilizer sits on the top only.
You mean like a forest?!
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tHe SoiL nEeDs NoOtRiEnTs
What it actually needs is life, that’s what the compost and dr earth is for.
I wonder if worms would survive in a pot like this, they’d certainly do the symbiotic thing to cycle material around. Probably hard to maintain the full soil web which is why I supplemented with some slow release fertilizer.
On another note, I’ve switched my indoor mix to this as well. My ficus trees are thriving the last few weeks.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:46 pm to audioguy
Honestly this mix has an even bigger impact on indoor plants. It's overnight turnaround stuff.
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