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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
Don't forget the covert fruit trees that are disguised as landscaping/hedges/bushes:

Cattley guava
Suriname cherry
Cherry of the Rio Grande
Feijoa/pineapple guava
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 9:30 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:10 am to
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I’ll simply say that I too may or may not live in a HOA/CDD community with bylaws against fruit trees and edible plants. I’ll also say that I may or may not have been told that as long as the yard is well maintained and they aren’t in plain view from the curb that a blind eye will almost always be turned to it. Problems typically arise in neighbor disputes. 99% of people have no idea what a banana, avocado or mango tree looks like. My neighborhood will have 6,000 homes once finished.



Yea, I get it. But our sub division takes care of the lawns and the guys who do that complain about mess a lot and I know fruit trees make a mess. I do have plenty of things planted in my yard that are not on the "approved list". Im just not going to push it with the fruit stuff.

It was a choice I made when I moved here. Im enjoying the plants and trees that I plant here and taking care of them. I dont know how much time Id have for a bunch of fruit stuff even though I love all your posts on them. I run two companies by myself still and they keep me very buys at my age. No help outside from the wife either. LOL

Id really like a lime or lemon tree but I tried a meyer inside my pool cage and just ran into too many hurdles so I got rid of it.

The HOA here is not agressive on the plants but I really dont want them evaluating my yard. Half the stuff I have planted are not "legal" and I just dont want a problem. They are suppose to take care of all the plants as well but I do and the yard guys love me. They dont even step in my beds. Just cut the lawn and move on. They mulch once a year and thats it


Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 12:37 pm to
I get it. Florida’s HOA/CDD structure is sort of ridiculous. You own the property; you should be able to grow you want on it.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:36 pm to
Until your neighbor decides he (let's be real: she) wants an all native garden that looks exactly like a baseball field that hasn't been mowed in 9 years.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:59 pm to
Cattley guava thinning. It is unbelievable how much fruit a cattley guava will set. Every single flower gets pollinated every year. It's too much. I took over 100 off today and I'm not even a quarter of the way done. This is in a 20g pot. Here is what an unthinned branch looks like. Multiply this by 150:



You need to thin by AT LEAST half to get the fruit to decent size and sweetness. This is the only tree that I am starting to suspect that I need to neglect more. My preseason potassium and magnesium applications and pruning are making the already overconfident tree think that it is the best fruiting plant in world history. I may need to starve and ignore it more to get something that resembles a reasonable fruit set and THEN feed it once flowering is over.

Starting to suspect that my mangos are stalling. I've got 12 on a 25g tree. It's probably too much. I grabbed the smallest fruit on the tree and photographed it yesterday to compare in 1 week. If there is no gain I may need to thin a few. Look at that clean Pickering after 2 weeks of straight rain, humidity at 80+%, and temps at 90F. Zero fungal scarring. Elite genetics:



Last one, some of you may want to jump on it like I did if you're crazy about guava. Incredible Edible Landscapes just released a new air layered cultivar they are calling Indonesian White Seedless. Unlike the cattley guava discussed above, this is a tropical guava and will not take freezing temps. What I like about this guava is that it has very few seeds and is advertised as creamy, not crunchy. It basically looks like a Mexican Cream guava without as many seeds. The seller also says it's very sweet, but what else would he say? $90 shipped for a 1g air layer but it's a very good looking cultivar obtained from a collector in Florida. You can email them to order or just let ya boy grow it to see if it's all it's cracked up to be.



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This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:06 pm to
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thinning



Thinning breaks my heart. Insane how many that tree is setting.

I think I need to think my pink lady but I'm the type who has to learn hard lessons for themself. I just counted 40 and didnt include new buds or buds that looked lkke they'd just set.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:15 pm to
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Thinning breaks my heart. Insane how many that tree is setting.

Same. And I suspect I am learning that lesson with potted mangos right now. But I'd rather risk it and maybe be right. If not there's always next year.

Yeah I now understand why cattley guava is an invasive species. Hawaii cannot control it at all. It's fast growing, incredibly self fertile, prolific, precocious, disease and pest resistant, takes tropical heat, takes 22F, and makes delicious fruit for animals to spread. And no Caribbean fruit fly to mess it up like central and south Florida. I planted 9 seeds last year and all 9 germinated and grew into plants. cgrand has one in his yard. It's a doomsday tree and it's why I think it has incredible potential in south Louisiana. Once it is well established I don't see any 9a freeze actually killing it. And as I've consistently said, this is an elite container tree and maybe the best introductory tropical you can grow. Anyone at any skill level can grow this tree. Just make sure to get the yellow fruited one unless you like astringency.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:54 pm to
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cgrand has one in his yard.
and it’s bionic. I think it grows an inch a day



And yes they are very invasive in Hawaii and other places due to germination success and root hardiness. Looking forward to some fruit though!
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:02 pm to
It gets too cold for it to colonize here. You need to freeze protect for at least the first year and ideally the first 3 and thereafter anytime you see anything below 22F. But my seedlings are doing the same thing. Dry soil, wet soil, full shade, full sun: doesn't matter. My 1 year old in ground tree has about 30 guavas on it.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:03 pm to
Mine has taken off like a rocket.




My Silas Wood Sapodilla did absolutely nothing for two months and then over the past two weeks has grown about 6". Same with my Starfruit. Both were slow to start but really took off once the nights got out of the 60s.



Tigerlaff, my Pickering is now 18"-24" tall. I was planning on cutting it below the next growth ring. I just wanted to be sure I'm understanding the growth ring thing right.

This is where I'd cut, right?

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71306 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:16 pm to
My little dwarf plumeria came in today. Was a little bigger than I though it would be. Happy with it. Jungle Jacks Plumeria did a good job of packaging it. Did not even lose a leaf in shipping. It was completely dry but other than that, it looked very good. Got it watered and out in the sun. Now to keep from killing it....




Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:48 pm to
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My Silas Wood Sapodilla did absolutely nothing for two months and then over the past two weeks has grown about 6". Same with my Starfruit. Both were slow to start but really took off once the nights got out of the 60s.

Sapodilla in general is a very slow grower. The dwarf varieties (Silas Wood, Makok, and debateably Alano) even more so. They are supposed to be slow, so don't worry. If it's green it's doing what it's supposed to do.

Starfruit is exactly as you described. It won't go crazy until the night temps rise. But for example, my new tree started flowering in the first week of June 2025. First ripe harvest was October 2025. This year I started flowering in late April early May and expect ripe fruit in September. The tree will settle in as long as you don't let it freeze.

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Tigerlaff, my Pickering is now 18"-24" tall. I was planning on cutting it below the next growth ring. I just wanted to be sure I'm understanding the growth ring thing right.

This is where I'd cut, right?


If you cut at that exact line, the new branches will emerge from where the leaves are below the cut and the branches will be vertically oriented. If you cut above that line, the new branches will all come from that ring and be horizontally oriented. More of a lollipop shape.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:15 pm to
Fig rehab project. I bought a 3g Prosciutto Unknown from NJ Fig Farm last fall. Prosciutto is the best fig I've ever had. I have one in the front yard that I grew from a cutting.

The 3g from NJ arrived dormant, which was expected. I planted it on 4/17/26 a few days after arrival but it never woke up.



Then it started dying from the tips. I cut it back each time and the fungus just kept attacking. It finally sent up a root sucker but 2 weeks of rain killed that.

So I pulled it out today. Figs are unbelievably tough. I bet 90% that this recovers and I'm able to replant.







And yes, NJ Fig Farm grows their plants in completely garbage soil just like everyone else. Would not recommend them.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 10:09 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Figs are unbelievably tough.
yes they are. I posted a couple weeks ago the Celeste rooted branches I ripped out of that bed I’ve been working on. I barely got any root and they never skipped a beat. I gave three of them to a farmer all pushing new leaves and have one left if anyone wants it. It’s huge now
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 5:54 am to
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If you cut at that exact line, the new branches will emerge from where the leaves are below the cut and the branches will be vertically oriented. If you cut above that line, the new branches will all come from that ring and be horizontally oriented. More of a lollipop shape.



Thanks, from what you previously posted and from what I've read I think I want to cut it below the ring so that the branches aren't all crowning out from the same spot. Do I need to wait for the trunk to harden off or can I cut it now while green? If I cut it now I won't lose sleep thinking about it
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:24 am to
Cut now. The tree is in growth mode. If you let it harden off it may take a while to get going.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1252 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:51 pm to


Harvested my first purple possum yesterday. Very tropical on the front end followed by a very sour warhead candy taste about 3 seconds after starting to eat it. The sourness was pretty delayed. Anyways, anyone have tips on how to preserve the flesh for smoothies? I was thinking about blending the flesh/seeds with a little water then freezing in ice cube trays.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 1:31 pm to
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Very tropical on the front end followed by a very sour warhead candy taste about 3 seconds after starting to eat it.


If you let it ripen a bit more (the skin gets all wrinkly) it isn't as tart. I like them sour.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22919 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 1:57 pm to
Beautiful color but you ate it way too early. Wait until it is totally wrinkled all over. Then give it another day. It will be much less tart and hopefully sweet.

This one needed another couple days:

This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:02 pm to
10-4, thanks guys!
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