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Installing ceiling fan w/ light in bedroom.

Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by Codeasy87
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2020
280 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:33 am
The existing room has a light and a light switch. Will the fan have the attachment for the ceiling?
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1526 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:43 am to
Have to make sure the ceiling electrical box is supported for a fan. Big difference between a light electrical box and one braced for fan weight and loads.

Easy to switch out though.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Codeasy87
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2020
280 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:53 am to
Should be able to see in the attic space right? Is the receptacle box the same?
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1526 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:55 am to
Yes you should see it. Will usually look like a regular square metal ceiling box but have a support going in each directing tying into the adjacent ceiling joists for support.

Google "ceiling box fan support"
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24831 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:56 am to
The fan will come with the attachment for the ceiling but what you need to do is make sure that it is supported above the ceiling appropriately, otherwise over time the weight and movement of the fan can make it wobble a lot and possibly fall.

Edit: the post above me describes this
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 11:57 am
Posted by Codeasy87
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2020
280 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:03 pm to
I see. I will do some investigating. Thank you for the info.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2380 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

The existing room has a light and a light switch. Will the fan have the attachment for the ceiling?



Yes the fan comes with a fan bracket/support. Just screw it into the existing light bracket
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24831 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Just screw it into the existing light bracket


Probably the biggest frick up that happens when people install fans. Do not do this. You must check for proper support in the fixture. If there was a fan there already it can sometimes be a safe bet that there was proper support, especially if the fan was there a long time, but the only way to know is to go in the attic and check.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1355 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:43 pm to
We are about to do this as well, the house was wired with a 2nd wall switch for a fan, but I am not sure about the support part. Good ?? OP. Now I have some figuring out to do.

But The damn instructions and harder to read that a Billy goats pecker.

and I hate paying people to do this crap. I just need to learn and get some confidence.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5131 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:52 pm to
Green to green, black to black, white to white and red to blue if you have the red wire. If not the blue goes with the black wires.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24831 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:14 pm to
I am not a handy guy and I installed a fan. It is tedious your first time doing it but it gets better. Here are my tips:

1) shut the breaker off and check the wires with a voltage tester.

2) take a picture of the assembly and how it is attached to the old fan to verify which wires go where in case they aren’t color coded well (my house is very old and the wires suck)

3) google a pic of the support a fan needs in the attic and go check yourself up there to see if it is in there

4) keep the old screws that went into the ceiling from the old fan in case the new screws are smaller in width than the old screws

5) live and learn, you’ll be doing it easily in no time.

Don’t forget to turn the breaker back on when you’re done and flip the switch to the fan
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7026 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:17 pm to
According to OP there was not a fan there. Only a light so chances are he will have to beef up the support to hang a fan there
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
1000 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:46 pm to
A lot of lights in bedrooms will have round, shallow biscuit boxes screwed into a 2x4 in the ceiling, either a ceiling Joyce or a 2x4 added to support a fan. If they wired for a fan there should be a white, black, red, and ground wire in the ceiling box, ground is prob straight copper. If it’s set up like that, from the fan, green to copper, black to black, white to white, blue to red. Is there a single switch or two switches on the wall?
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34564 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Yes you should see it. Will usually look like a regular square metal ceiling box but have a support going in each directing tying into the adjacent ceiling joists for support.

Google "ceiling box fan support"


There are multiple different types of fan rated boxes and most don’t have support brackets. And there are boxes with brackets that are not rated for fans. Chances are the box there isn’t. I’d change to a new one just to be safe personally
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 10:16 pm
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
975 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 10:36 pm to
I'll probably get some flack for this, but I started in the residential lighting business back in the early '80s and have hung lots of fans far heavier & more ornate than what's available today. I've never had or known anyone who ever had a problem with a fan coming down using a standard joist mounted ceiling box prior to ceiling fan boxes coming in to the market place.

Granted I follow that practice now for the added safety benefit(Code) but I think it's overkill as long as the octo box is directly mounted to a joist or an expandable joist hanger.

I certainly wouldn't open up a ceiling if unreachable from the attic if either of the above mounts were present.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2380 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Probably the biggest frick up that happens when people install fans. Do not do this. You must check for proper support in the fixture.



I’ve done it plenty of times with no issue whatsoever. If the light bracket is secured to to the box onto a stud that’s plenty of support especially if it was previously a hanging light
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23133 posts
Posted on 3/20/21 at 2:33 pm to


I hung this one in the master bathroom this morning to replace an older one. Whoever designed the blades needs to be punched in the balls. They were a pain to attach to the motor
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15066 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:40 am to
Great work!

As someone that isn’t extremely handy either, I get some joy out of hanging a new ceiling fan.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14554 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:08 am to
... bbut it's only got three blades




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