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Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:49 pm to habz007
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Prices I’ve heard (Nola area) is to expect around $10k. I want to, but I won’t do it.
Damn, I had no idea it was this expensive. That's a steep price to pay only to be out of electricity for about a day or two most of the time. Where I live in Mandeville, if the electicity does happen to go out (which is hardly ever), it's only out for a few hours. During a storm, it may be a day or two at most. If the storm is bad enough, I'm not staying around here anyway. I have a 5.7kW portable generator I can use to keep food cold and run a few fans and lights until we get powered up again for a few days.
Posted on 8/25/20 at 7:56 pm to LSU1018
A few variables here. I just installed one 2 weeks ago. My house is on a corner lot and the gas meter is on one side of my house and the electric meter is on the opposite side. I put my generator next to the gas meter as it’s on the side of the house we don’t use. I had 120 feet to run all wires needed. HMC in Prairieville sells the wire as an all in one and its $6.50 per foot. It cost me $930 just for The wire. The plumbing for gas to generator was cheap as it was only about 10 feet. Had I reversed the situation and made the longer run of gas piping rather than electrical it would have been over $2k for a plumber to do it. So there are some variables. If your gas and electric are located on the same side of the house you could probably get a 22kw installed for about $8k as I did get estimates
Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:34 pm to Skeeterzx190
Honest question, what are the variables where a home house makes sense? From what I’ve seen from Hurricane Michael, you don’t really want to live through half that shite. Send your family to live with family or whatever. Obviously it makes life normal for those 1-2 days of no power, but that’s not really what you are paying for as if you have the money for a whole house generator you are better off leaving or staying in a hotel for that.
So I guess my point is, how often does it actually make sense for someone that can afford it to actually do? It just seems like a comfort prepper ideal that doesn’t really make a lot of sense unless you just look to blow money. I mean if power is out for 10 days or more it’s likely gas lines are out a day or 3 and there’s enough other damage to infrastructure locally that your life isn’t staying normal. I know the comforts of home are always nice. I just have a hard time believing a while house generator has that much positive effect to make it worth it.
I’m also curious how the nat gas company would do? Seems like it would be very taxing on their infrastructure to all of a sudden have possibly 1000s of generators? But maybe im over thinking that.
So I guess my point is, how often does it actually make sense for someone that can afford it to actually do? It just seems like a comfort prepper ideal that doesn’t really make a lot of sense unless you just look to blow money. I mean if power is out for 10 days or more it’s likely gas lines are out a day or 3 and there’s enough other damage to infrastructure locally that your life isn’t staying normal. I know the comforts of home are always nice. I just have a hard time believing a while house generator has that much positive effect to make it worth it.
I’m also curious how the nat gas company would do? Seems like it would be very taxing on their infrastructure to all of a sudden have possibly 1000s of generators? But maybe im over thinking that.
Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:52 pm to baldona
When I built my home I made sure I wired my shop with a 220v outlet to run a portable generator which was enough to power anything 110v in my home as well as a mini split a/c in my bonus room which is where my wife and kids would have slept during an outage. The main variable in my equation was an over night disease that took my fathers movement in his lower body and hasn’t walked since thanksgiving last year when I walked him into an emergency room. They do live in the same neighborhood as me and given the fact he’s in a motorized wheelchair and has a catheter evacuating and hotels didn’t seem that easy. Also my job requires me to stay home if not at work during storms. As well as being a first responder. So do to a high probability I’ll either be at work during the storm I wanted the assurance my wife, kids, mother and handicapped father would be ok and not have to worry about gas cans, and throwing breakers in bad weather. So call it what you would like I fortunate enough to be able to afford that luxury and do almost all the installation myself. Cost was minimal compared to what some companies wanted for a full installation. Prices ranged from $8-13k.
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:39 pm to baldona
quote:In my case, we are a family of 4 with two cats and a gecko in a temp-controlled enclosure, and my MIL lives nearby with an indoor dog. If the power goes out for a day or two, and all we have to do is bring the MIL, her dog, and a few items from the fridge over here to ride it out in comfort with no limits on cooking, washing clothes, cooling, etc., shite that's easily worth $500/day.
So I guess my point is, how often does it actually make sense for someone that can afford it to actually do? It just seems like a comfort prepper ideal that doesn’t really make a lot of sense unless you just look to blow money. I mean if power is out for 10 days or more it’s likely gas lines are out a day or 3 and there’s enough other damage to infrastructure locally that your life isn’t staying normal. I know the comforts of home are always nice. I just have a hard time believing a while house generator has that much positive effect to make it worth it.
To avoid having to load up a bunch of people and animals and all their accoutrements and go somewhere, or haul out a portable generator and instruct everyone about what they can and can't use, and they may be uncomfortable for a couple days... yeah, if I can avoid all that for a total of 3 or 4 weeks over a decade, it's worth the cost. Especially given we have room to accommodate a few more people, and we have plenty of local media to watch without the internet.
Of course everyone's situation is different, and it's probably a tough call for most people. But having kids, pets, and other family to take care of makes the decision a lot easier.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:01 am to fightin tigers
quote:I have a 25kw water cooled generac, cost was right at 16,000 back in 2017....water cooled is very quiet....had a 22kw generac air cooled in house I sold in S/E BR....in 2008... cost 8,0000 and was a very noisy....both still going strong....get extended warranty.
How much does a watercooled generator add to the price?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 7:02 am to skinny domino
What’s their usage of nat gas cost a day to run? I haven’t done the math but sounds like $30-40 most likely? Plus the cost of yearly maintenance?
It makes sense if you need to be there like you are a first responder or other position that needs boots on the ground.
It makes sense if you need to be there like you are a first responder or other position that needs boots on the ground.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 7:56 am to baldona
quote:During Aug 2016 flood...52 hours of use....My Entergy bill was 400.00 more....I was paying the Generac outfit who installed it....150.00 a year....on the 25kw I have now service contract is 200.00 yearly...this includes oil/filter sparkplug and doing a complete load once a year..have not lost power only one time for 5 hours can't give $$$$$ cost for fuel.
What’s their usage of nat gas cost a day to run? I haven’t done the math but sounds like $30-40 most likely? Plus the cost of yearly maintenance?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 7:57 am to baldona
quote:During Aug 2016 flood...52 hours of use....My Entergy bill was 400.00 more....I was paying the Generac outfit who installed it....150.00 a year....on the 25kw I have now service contract is 200.00 yearly...this includes oil/filter sparkplug and doing a complete load once a year..have not lost power only one time for 5 hours can't give $$$$$ cost for fuel.
What’s their usage of nat gas cost a day to run? I haven’t done the math but sounds like $30-40 most likely? Plus the cost of yearly maintenance?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 8:58 am to LSU1018
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 9:10 am to baldona
Reason for a genset for me is cause of my health. I do have a small genset, but now it will be very hard for me to set it up if need be. If I loose power thru this storm, I will have to call someone to hook things up. 
Was never a problem before.
Was never a problem before. 
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:16 pm to Popths
Do you have a number?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:28 pm to Gorilla Ball
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:20 pm to footballdude
Thanks
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:20 pm to footballdude
Thanks
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:22 pm to southern686
Do you have a number for this contractor? Thanks
Posted on 8/26/20 at 4:37 pm to southern686
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22Kw, auto transfer switch, turn key install, also bought extended warranty...... it cost him $9,400.
Chustz Electric put mine in and have been happy with them. Mine was about $2K more than that due to proximity of generator/gas/electric feed.
Natural gas on one side of my house (towards the front), electric feed on the other of the house (towards the front) and I wanted generator in the back (looked better and didn't want noise in my master bedroom). They had to bore the gas line under patio, flower beds, etc.
Personally, I would get it from a dealer and not big box store. I also pay couple hundred a year for their maintenance plan.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:09 pm to captainahab
What about diesel vs natural gas? If there is a gas interruption? Diesel tanks would be a pain but ?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 6:13 pm to Cracker
I suspect the added cost of diesel generator and higher maintenance costs would only be worth it if you were putting a lot of hours on the generator.
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