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re: Gas Vs Electric Self Propelled Push Mower

Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
38992 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:07 am to
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I don't think people realize just how good these electric mowers have gotten.

Hallelujah!
I did 11,000+ sq. ft. yesterday on a single 60V 5.0ahm Greenworks battery
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
38992 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:09 am to
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I looked at that one at Costco but it was $499

You don't need self propelled with electric. Go directly to Greenworks website to buy. Memorial Day will be good savings
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2133 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:17 am to
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directly to Greenworks website to buy


I have a small 40V greenworks. When taking the blade off to sharpen, the plate that holds the blade in place on the shaft stripped. It was plastic. I didn't pay much for it (~$250) and it was my first step into electric mowers, so I didn't mind too much.

But when I upgraded, I looked at the EGO and the fit and finish was way better in my opinion. Again, I got the cheapest Greenworks and the EGO was $150 more expensive, so it's not apples to apples. But the EGO is noticeably better so far.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16294 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:14 am to
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Get the de-fagged version. Gas. All day, every day.
amen. If you queers are into saving the planet get a reel mower, or some goats.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86699 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:22 am to
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If you queers are into saving the planet get a reel mower, or some goats.

I'm sorry I thought this was the home and garden board where people weren't ridiculed for their opinion.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:46 pm to
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I'm not going to clean a carburetor ever again, personally.


With quality equipment and basic good practices you shouldn't have to clean a carb anyway. My equipment is Stihl, Echo, and Honda and with good 89 octane fuel, Stabil 360, and quality synthetic oils my stuff has been utterly reliable. Replace air filters ever other season, replace spark plugs every couple of seasons, don't store my equipment with fuel in them unless it's a little canned stuff from the end-of-season flush. I put a new air filter on my Honda HRN this season and the inside of the carb throat is spotless, simply no varnish or dirt when the basics are done.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:15 pm to
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I'm not going to clean a carburetor ever again, personally.
With quality equipment and basic good practices you shouldn't have to clean a carb anyway. My equipment is Stihl, Echo, and Honda and with good 89 octane fuel, Stabil 360, and quality synthetic oils my stuff has been utterly reliable. Replace air filters ever other season, replace spark plugs every couple of seasons, don't store my equipment with fuel in them unless it's a little canned stuff from the end-of-season flush. I put a new air filter on my Honda HRN this season and the inside of the carb throat is spotless, simply no varnish or dirt when the basics are done.

The general complaint is that maintenance on gas lawn equipment is a chore, and your response is it's not so bad as long as you:

1. Buy good mid-grade fuel
2. Add fuel stabilizer
3. Use quality synthetic oil
4. Replace air filter every two years
5. Replace spark plugs every two years
6. Drain or burn off fuel at end of season

Maybe some people enjoy doing all that stuff, and I'm sure it doesn't feel like chores or too much to do because you've been doing it for so long and it's routine. I just want to get some yard work done. And if I can do that without having to think about whether I'm putting good gas in it or whether I should use additives or having to change the oil or check if the filter is dirty or check the spark plugs or guess whether the season is over or remember anything really. I just want to do the work and clean the equipment and get on with my day.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
38992 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:31 pm to
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With quality equipment and basic good practices you shouldn't have to clean a carb anyway. My equipment is Stihl, Echo, and Honda and with good 89 octane fuel, Stabil 360, and quality synthetic oils my stuff has been utterly reliable. Replace air filters ever other season, replace spark plugs every couple of seasons, don't store my equipment with fuel in them unless it's a little canned stuff from the end-of-season flush. I put a new air filter on my Honda HRN this season and the inside of the carb throat is spotless, simply no varnish or dirt when the basics are done.


$$$

None of that with battery powered. Time is also $$$
Posted by TurkeyThug
Member since Jan 2019
247 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:35 pm to
Really? Gas
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5732 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:47 pm to
Ok so I do not have an electric but my brother got one for his new house. Not a huge yard but a front and back. That thing has surprises the shite out of me. Charges last long. It is quiet as shite which is underestimated. Cutting power is strong as well. Guess the tech is catching up. His is part of a system with different things that use the same type of battery. Weed eater/edger and blower. All work just fine. I was shocked but if it works very easy.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:49 pm to
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I was shocked
I would return it, they're not supposed to do that.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1403 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:01 pm to
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None of that with battery powered.


Until the battery dies
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86699 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Until the battery dies


Might want to do a little research on the number of charge cycles a LIoN can handle.

Look this shouldn't be a pissing match but there are some seriously incorrect assumptions about electric mowers in this thread.

Go buy one at a big box store and run it a couple times and if it sucks take it back and get a Honda.

Not sure what you're out by giving it a shot and if nothing else you can hrrumpf and come back to this thread and say I told you so.

There's nothing wrong with someone looking an electric mower as a viable option and I'm on Team Don't-Want-To-frick-With-Oil-Gas-Air filters and fuel stabilizer.

I've run gas mowers my whole life and I'm ready for a change.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:51 pm to
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Until the battery dies
I've got a couple of Ego packs that are 4 years old and show no signs of slowing down. I think they'll keep going at least another 3-4 years. That said, they could die tomorrow and they would have been worth the cost to replace. Zero trips to the gas station, zero messing with oil or additives, zero gas/oil to clean up, zero filter checking/changing, zero spark plug checking/changing, zero pull starting, zero end-of-season special maintenance. Much quieter operation, stores in any orientation. For a cost of maybe $1 per week? Sign me up.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:42 pm to
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None of that with battery powered.


Except if the battery craps out, hopefully under warranty but if not that's $300+ to replace. That's all the maintenance and fuel savings wiped out for a lot of seasons. Still have blade to sharpen/replace so it's not as if an electric mower obviates all maintenance. Replacing a filter and sparkplug takes minutes, I have a vacuum pump for oil that makes it an extremely easy task with zero mess. So not much time, especially if I don't have to wait for a battery to charge. Or you have a spare battery which is still an extra $300 for the convenience.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86699 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:49 pm to
That's where being part of an ecosystem comes in handy. Ego mower was a no brainer test for me because I already had 4 tools from them using the same battery just different amp hours.

I can't do both front and back without a break because it's tiring so for me I have 2 choices is I run out of juice:

1. Throw it on the charger and have a glass of water and do the edging and blowing then pick up the charged battery and finish.

2. Swap the 7.5ah for the 5ah and see if that will finish the job with no interruptions.

Like I said, this is an experiment for me. I have 3/4 acre and there are some challenging slopes so I can't wait to do front and back and report back. I'll probably do that Friday if I have enough time to do the yard.

I'll be putting the ego through a stress test for sure.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:55 pm to
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Except if the battery craps out, hopefully under warranty but if not that's $300+ to replace. That's all the maintenance and fuel savings wiped out for a lot of seasons. Still have blade to sharpen/replace so it's not as if an electric mower obviates all maintenance. Replacing a filter and sparkplug takes minutes, I have a vacuum pump for oil that makes it an extremely easy task with zero mess. So not much time, especially if I don't have to wait for a battery to charge. Or you have a spare battery which is still an extra $300 for the convenience.

You are intently focused on the cost of a battery but you severely underestimate the time saved and brush it off as if it's nothing. Ok, replacing filters and spark plugs takes minutes. How long did it take to buy them? Did you drive to a local store or search for them online? More time is lost here than in changing them. Ok you have an oil pump, what's that an extra $75 expense plus another thing to store and clean? How about the time to dispose of the oil? Or the space to store it in the meantime?

These are all costs of using gas powered equipment. Time, thought, energy, space. All of these costs are discounted and ignored, and we just talk about a $300 battery and act like it'll just shite the bed any day now. I think there's a decent chance that battery will last 8 or 10 years, and all that time it provides the most efficient use of time and storage space. It is just one thing to deal with and it takes up less than half a cubic foot of space. The alternative is a cubic foot for a gas can, then more space for oil and oil accessories, perhaps used oil storage, fuel additives, filters, spark plugs, cleaning supplies. It's a lot of shite to either keep on hand or worry about buying/ordering and changing/handling. And for what gain? Literally no gain whatsoever, the same job gets done except it gets done faster with battery tools. The only negative to battery is the cost of batteries, but it's looking like that cost is about a dollar per week.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86699 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:13 am to
Nevermind I always forget and run out of gas at the worst fricking time then I have to get in my car all sweaty and nasty just to make a gas run so I can finish the yard.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:13 am to
Gas powered Honda using ethanol free gas with regular synthetic oil changes should provide you many years of service.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:15 pm to
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How long did it take to buy them?


Same amount of time as it took you to buy a new blade for your electric lawnmower. If you ever look, that stuff and blades are usually on the same aisle.


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Ok you have an oil pump, what's that an extra $75 expense plus another thing to store and clean? How about the time to dispose of the oil? Or the space to store it in the meantime?


Storage is a non issue, I never clean it, just pour into the same 5-gallon VP can I put the used oil from my vehicles into, which gets taken to the local auto parts store to dump in their tank every few months. Between the lawnmowers (I have two), Mi-T-M pressure washer, yard vacuum, and 3 vehicles oil changes are no big deal, very routine for me.

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These are all costs of using gas powered equipment.


It's minimal considering everything runs on the same 10W-30 full synthetic I put in my vehicles. I buy 5-quart jugs and since one vehicle only needs 4.5 the leftover goes to the yard equipment.

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It's a lot of shite to either keep on hand or worry about buying/ordering and changing/handling


Compared to $100,000+ worth of tools I have in my shop it's hardly a consideration.
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