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Garden Timbers

Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:49 pm
I know some guys on here run sawmills, so I was hoping someone could push me in the right direction. I am looking to redo my raised bed in the fall and put in big timbers to frame it up. I was thinking 3x8 or 4x8 rough cut. Who should I be talking to or where should I be looking for something like that?

Edited for spelling.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:51 pm to
You need treated wood or it will rot with the quickness
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30002 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:31 pm to
dont over think it. go to home depot and get a load of landscaping timbers (they are treated, hence the "landscaping' in the name) then nail them together with the big spike nails

when you are done its just as solid and strong as a 4x8
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:47 pm to
Appreciate that. Looking for the squared off look though, as opposed to the rounded edges of the landscape timbers.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30002 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:05 pm to
well it has to be rot proof so your options are extremely limited in treated lumber

have you considered using cinder blocks to get your squared off look? i know its not the best look but they only cost $1.50 each and with a plastic liner inside of them there wont be any issues with dirt migration or blocks separating

it would be a hell of a lot of work but you could rip the landscaping timers square and end up with a 3x3 so double stacked you got 3x6
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:27 pm to
Nah, it has enough volume to withstand a lot....
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

You need treated wood or it will rot with the quickness


This for sure.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Appreciate that. Looking for the squared off look though, as opposed to the rounded edges of the landscape timbers.


Then just buy some 4x6 treated beams and nail them together. Check your local lumber company to see if they have damage beams. They will sell off cheap.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1936 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:06 pm to
Get #2 grade treated pine 6x6. That’s what I’m using. Believe they also make a lower grade 6x6 landscape timber also.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56018 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:11 pm to
You thought about using used railroad crossties?
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:50 pm to
Railroad ties have some nasty stuff in them. I cant imagine creosote and other preservatives in those is good that close to a garden.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17695 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:06 am to
Find build out of cypress
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15096 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:18 am to
quote:

I cant imagine creosote and other preservatives in those is good that close to a garden.


A friend of mine made a large raised bed garden years ago and used RR crossties that were creosote treated.

What he did was put a couple layers of heavy plastic all along the inside wall of the bed before filling it with his garden soil. Personally, I wouldn't use crossties, even with the plastic since over time that will eventually break down and become useless.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16566 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:35 am to
quote:

I cant imagine creosote and other preservatives in those is good that close to a garden.



Stuff is deep in the wood and doesn't leach easily. Made a garden bed years ago with 4 sleepers and they are still solid. I'm getting rid of them now and wish they weren't so solid
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:41 am to
I bought 8' lengths of 5-quarter cedar, so my bed is 24' long by 4' wide. Yes, it was expensive. But it's not leaching anything into the veggie garden soil. Going on 5 years direct contact w/soil, not the slightest soft spot or rot or termites (it is on a slight slope, so pretty well drained).

I used heavy cast-aluminum joints that are driven into the ground. Like these, but I don't recall the specific brand or source: LINK
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:31 am to
I used Trex deck boards,expensive but should outlive me.Been 14 years,holding up well.
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