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For those of you with larger vegetable gardens....
Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:18 pm
Would you be willing to share details about your setup? Bonus points if you have a green house with tomato plants.
I'm trying to get started with a fairly small one in South Louisiana. We moved to a new house on 1.5 acres recently, and I have plenty of well drained space with full sun in the back that would be perfect for a vegetable garden.
Do you find that the walk behind tillers and equipment are easier to handle than the tow behind (I have a garden tractor on order, but it's a 2 month wait)? Do you have a greenhouse for your tomato plants? If not - how do you keep the birds out of them?
I'm trying to get started with a fairly small one in South Louisiana. We moved to a new house on 1.5 acres recently, and I have plenty of well drained space with full sun in the back that would be perfect for a vegetable garden.
Do you find that the walk behind tillers and equipment are easier to handle than the tow behind (I have a garden tractor on order, but it's a 2 month wait)? Do you have a greenhouse for your tomato plants? If not - how do you keep the birds out of them?
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:03 pm to frequent flyer
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Do you find that the walk behind tillers and equipment are easier to handle than the tow behind
dont till...fill.
you'll have a happier more productive garden
Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:41 pm to frequent flyer
At this point in time, without already having an area prepped and ready, I would not worry about a summer garden since it is getting a bit late to plant some of the things you'd likely want in it.
Once the full brunt of summer heat gets here, my garden usually starts dying off. Tomato plants are pretty much done by late June, cucumbers slow way down, as do my green beans.
Things like okra, peppers and squash do OK in the heat, but require almost daily watering to keep them alive and thriving.
Full sun is a good thing for a garden, but first you should at least do a soil test in the area you plan on using for your garden. Take soil samples from several areas in the spot you want to use and send it off to get analyzed to see if there's things your soil needs as far as nutrients and PH level.
As for equipment, I have a small 5 HP walk behind tiller that I got after I lost my 8 HP Troy Bilt Horse tiller from Katrina in 05. It's sufficient for my backyard garden of five 50 ft. rows, a few trellises and one 48 sq. ft. raised bed-----but I miss the power and ease of operation of the Troy Bilt.
I've never had issues with birds and tomatoes, but they love to destroy my figs and made me stop planting strawberries due to loss.
Once the full brunt of summer heat gets here, my garden usually starts dying off. Tomato plants are pretty much done by late June, cucumbers slow way down, as do my green beans.
Things like okra, peppers and squash do OK in the heat, but require almost daily watering to keep them alive and thriving.
Full sun is a good thing for a garden, but first you should at least do a soil test in the area you plan on using for your garden. Take soil samples from several areas in the spot you want to use and send it off to get analyzed to see if there's things your soil needs as far as nutrients and PH level.
As for equipment, I have a small 5 HP walk behind tiller that I got after I lost my 8 HP Troy Bilt Horse tiller from Katrina in 05. It's sufficient for my backyard garden of five 50 ft. rows, a few trellises and one 48 sq. ft. raised bed-----but I miss the power and ease of operation of the Troy Bilt.
I've never had issues with birds and tomatoes, but they love to destroy my figs and made me stop planting strawberries due to loss.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 7:23 pm to cgrand
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dont till...fill.
you'll have a happier more productive garden
I think what cgrand is eluding to is Raised Beds.
If so i agree. Build them once and not have to worry about tilling again.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 7:46 pm to btrcj
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I think what cgrand is eluding to is Raised Beds.
Raised beds are great, but if he's wanting to plant a large area, that is cost prohibitive and he'll be upside down for a few years in material and garden soil alone.
With todays lumber prices, I'd not want to build a bunch of raised beds.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 7:50 pm to btrcj
Raised beds, (google hugelkulture) is the way to go. I have 7 - 12 * 4 raised beds and 10 25 foot rows. If doing it over, I would change the raised beds to 3' width. It's a pain trying to reach the middle when on your knees. I have a mantis electric I use in the raised beds. A 6.5 rear tine tiller for the rows. I agree it's too late for summer but we can plant so much stuff in the fall. The fall garden is so much easier than the spring. With 1 1/2 acres you can look into fruit trees and bushes. I have satsuma, figs, lemon, blueberry, peach, apple, thornless blackberry (buy 1 as they are ridiculously easy to propogate), grapes and muscadines.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 7:54 pm to Tbone2
Forgot to add, google Louisiana Planting guide put out by LSU. Everything you need to know about growing vegetables in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:09 pm to Tbone2
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The fall garden is so much easier than the spring.
Totally agree with this. I grow year round and my fall garden is by far my favorite.
In it, I'll grow beets, collard greens, Swiss Chard, lots of different varieties of leaf lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, Brussel sprouts, Kale, cauliflower, onions and garlic.
It requires much less maintenance, watering, weeding and the added benefit of working in it in cool weather.
After dealing with the summertime heat, it's a godsend to plant in the fall. If you plant by late August/early September, you can also get in a crop of tomatoes and some more green beans before the cold weather takes them out-------if we even get cold weather.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:47 pm to frequent flyer
I’ve got a 40x80’ garden. I use a three point hitch rotary tiller behind my tractor and till it twice before hipping up beds. I use a pan blade hipper to make beds.
In the summer I grow tomatoes, cucumbers, yellow squash, spaghetti squash, zucchini, okra, green beans, pink eye peas and eggplant.
I irrigate using drip tape.
I don’t consistently have an issue with birds or squirrels eating tomatoes. It seems some years are worse than others. On the worse years I pick the tomatoes when they start turning red and let them ripen in the window sill.
I guess you could get netting to keep the birds out.
In the summer I grow tomatoes, cucumbers, yellow squash, spaghetti squash, zucchini, okra, green beans, pink eye peas and eggplant.
I irrigate using drip tape.
I don’t consistently have an issue with birds or squirrels eating tomatoes. It seems some years are worse than others. On the worse years I pick the tomatoes when they start turning red and let them ripen in the window sill.
I guess you could get netting to keep the birds out.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:20 pm to frequent flyer
We made a raised bed garden. Think a rectangle 16 ft by 8 ft with the center 4 feet empty and a two foot entrance on one side. This rectangle section is 2 ft deep.
Along the two long sides, we have 1 ft deep, 1 ft wide second tier of beds.
We have tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, squash, eggplant, Tabasco peppers, bell peppers, watermelons and flowers.
The 2ft bed is fenced in up to 6ft with chicken wire. I just put up trellis net over the zucchini and squash. Their leaves a flipping huge right now.
I also think my tomatoes are doing great, however I’m worried that the branches off the main stalks, especially at the base are resulting in stealing energy/nutrients from the fruiting part, but they may grow flowers yet.
Along the two long sides, we have 1 ft deep, 1 ft wide second tier of beds.
We have tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, squash, eggplant, Tabasco peppers, bell peppers, watermelons and flowers.
The 2ft bed is fenced in up to 6ft with chicken wire. I just put up trellis net over the zucchini and squash. Their leaves a flipping huge right now.
I also think my tomatoes are doing great, however I’m worried that the branches off the main stalks, especially at the base are resulting in stealing energy/nutrients from the fruiting part, but they may grow flowers yet.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:00 pm to frequent flyer
This late in the game, I would get the soil tested and amend it as necessary. Rent a tiller to bust up the ground with soil amendments and see if that's something you really need long term. Spend the summer dumping grass cuttings, leaves, coffee grinds, compost materials, fish heads and bones, etc and then till it all in in the fall. If you don't have much of that, then plant a cheap cover crop for the fall like greens and just till it under instead.
You'll be ready to kick arse in the spring. That will give you time to plan the space, your irrigation, etc and be ready to go.
You'll be ready to kick arse in the spring. That will give you time to plan the space, your irrigation, etc and be ready to go.
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