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For all you Scientists out there. Question about Bioengineering a product.

Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:50 am
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7616 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:50 am
Here in Texas over the last few seasons have lost a ton of oak trees due to freezing rain and the freezing conditions. So it prompts me to ask this question.
Is there a market or possibility to engineer a product/chemical to stimulate “pre mature” leave loss on trees before we get into times of the year when this type of weather is a threat?
If these Oak trees here would have lost their leaves earlier say in December, the amount of broken trees would be minimal. It’s the weight of the leaves on the limbs that end up breaking the branches and or the whole tree. Something progressive or helpful to avoid losing beautiful 25-100 year old trees especially on peoples land or property this type of product could be used.
Just an idea.
If we can inject medicine into humans to protect them from something worse, then we should be able to do that for all things we care about that are living with creative science.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28642 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:38 pm to
are the leaves dead and stay on the tree?

If so, I'm guessing they're red oaks.

stop planting those..
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:42 pm to
The leaves are alive, and just many different varieties of them here.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3907 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:47 pm to
Leaf loss involves several different plant hormones and the most important one which can’t be injected. Who knows, maybe feeding the trees auxins early enough would speed leaf loss up enough to protect them.

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When both ethylene and auxins trigger abscission the leaves begin to ‘self-destruct’. The tree stops sending nutrients to the leaves and degradation of the bottom of the petiole, known as the abscission zone, starts. Most cells already know how to disassemble themselves but degrading cellulose, the main component of plants’ cell walls, is a bit trickier.
Cellulose is the world’s most abundant polymer. It’s made out of thousands of units of glucose linked by glycosidic bonds. You can degrade cellulose in the lab, but this requires extremely acidic conditions. Plants, on the other hand, take advantage of enzymes, nature’s catalysts. They use a family of enzymes called glycosidases that specialise in breaking down glycosidic bonds. Glycosidases that specialise in degrading cellulose are known as cellulases.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:12 pm to
You're definitely not talking about live oaks, right?
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7616 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:52 pm to
We have a ton of different kinds.
Live Oaks, Lacy Oaks , Red Oaks, Mexican Oaks, Southern Red Oaks, Bur Oaks and maybe more.

Live Oaks fool me here and growing up in Louisiana and how huge they were mostly vs how small they are here based on the water table and lack of rain overall.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:53 pm to
Interesting, thank you for sharing that.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 11:14 am to
Those must be water oaks yea?
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62504 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:34 pm to
I live in the Cypress area, I hit my trees with a 13-13-13 and Ironite.
I notice that my trees hold leaves longer than any other around here.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43108 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:45 pm to
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If these Oak trees here would have lost their leaves earlier say in December, the amount of broken trees would be minimal.


I guess you are in central texas? As I understand it, mostly live oaks were affected by the ice although I know other trees were too. Live Oaks are evergreen so although they drop leaves throughout the year, they always have leaves even in the winter. The other trees I heard that had broken limbs were ashe junipers, again an evergreen tree and cedar elms, which wouldn't have had leaves last week, and

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Live Oaks fool me here and growing up in Louisiana and how huge they were mostly vs how small they are here based on the water table and lack of rain overall.


If you are in central texas the Live Oaks are Escarpment Live Oaks, quercus fusiformis, not quercus virginiana as they have in louisiana.
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