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BallsEleven
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
The only thing I’ll add to the above post is be patient. It will take some time because you have a lot of weeds in that lawn but it can be done. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t have full coverage this summer because you won’t.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Where are you located


I live near Lafayette.

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Your lawn not drain well


My front yard, where this was taken, drains pretty well. It's been really saturated this winter though. My back yard does not drain well in spots.

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I’d spray the lawn now with the winter weed cocktail of 8.5 oz of Hi Yield atrazine + 1 oz of Fertilome weed free zone + 2 teaspoons of Hi Yield spreader/stricker mixed in 1 or 2 gallons of water and spray that over 1000 sq ft


Guessing I can get that at any feed store? Tractor supply? Lowe's?



I really appreciate the help by the way. Looks like I have my work cut out for me. I finally got a chance to get into the yard last weekend. The amount of clovers/weeds growing in some spots was insane.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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I’m about to try your mix on my winter weeds and see how it goes.

Actually it is a recommendation of weed specialists in the LSU AgCenter In regards to the winter weed cocktail formulation. Also, just a couple other hints when using it. It works at little slow because these are systemic herbicides, not a contact herbicides, so give it 2 or 3 weeks to see the results, particularly in cooler weather. Also don’t hesitate to repeat the application in 2 or 3 weeks as you’ll not likely to kill them all on the first spray, and mature weeds are more difficult to kill than young weeds.


tigerlife36
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Thanks I’m also going to lay some prodiamine down this weekend.


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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Guessing I can get that at any feed store? Tractor supply? Lowe's?

Tractor Supply should carry the atrazine and spreader sticker. I don’t recall if Tractor Supply carries the Fertilome Weed-Free-Zone. Lowe’s likely won’t carry all this.

Your best bet is a good independent retail plant nursery or hardware store for the Hi-Yield and Fertilome herbicide products. Perhaps the other posters from the Lafayette area can give you some suggestions on where to purchase these products.

Since you are new to this, I’d like you to use the Hi Yield and Fertilome herbicide products, and when you get a little more comfortable you can shop other brand names of the same herbicide formulations.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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The only thing I’ll add to the above post is be patient. It will take some time because you have a lot of weeds in that lawn but it can be done. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t have full coverage this summer because you won’t.


This is absolutely so true - patience and persistence - is imperative. The worst the weed problem, the more patience and persistence you need. But you you will see improvement. Lawn might look worst for a while when all these lawn weeds start dying but it will improve.


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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Ok thank you. I'm trying to take it step by step to help digest this, because I honestly don't know what I'm doing.

I'm about to go look for that stuff you recommended for the first spray. I'll have tons of questions along the way, but right now I'll stick to this. Hopefully you can stay with my dumbass along the way.

When I mix this, should I put it all together in a big hand held spray bucket?

Is there a specific time I need to do this? When it's fully dry? Right before a rain? When it's not going to rain for a while? Right after a rain?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Ok thank you. I'm trying to take it step by step to help digest this, because I honestly don't know what I'm doing. I'm about to go look for that stuff you recommended for the first spray. I'll have tons of questions along the way, but right now I'll stick to this. Hopefully you can stay with my dumbass along the way. When I mix this, should I put it all together in a big hand held spray bucket? Is there a specific time I need to do this? When it's fully dry? Right before a rain? When it's not going to rain for a while? Right after a rain?

Don’t let it over helm you, it’s not as a difficult as it sounds. All of us providing this advice had no idea what we were doing when we first started.

Yes, mix those ingredients in the sprayer, and I’d recommend a 2 gallon sprayer in your case. Specific time of the day, no - whenever you have time to spray. You can spray it now, the lawn need not be dry. The herbicide Weed Free Zone will be rainproof in 1 hour. The Atrazine component will need to be watered in but rain will take of that for you in the next week or 2.

The label instructions on each herbicide you buy will tell you all you need to knows on how to properly apply it - so read the label! All that information is required to be on the container by federal law. 2/3rd of the info will be “safety” info for liability reasons.

Here is a copy of the winter weed cocktail





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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Thanks. I was able to find it all at a local feed store. The guy there was very helpful and actually said a lot of the same stuff you were saying. I'll mix it all up tomorrow and spray. I only have a one gallon spray bucket though.


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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
So just to make sure I'm on the right path.

Tomorrow - mix those three things I just bought and spray.

3 weeks from now - repeat the first step.

When weather warms up - spray MSM. Does the MSM need to be sprayed throughout the entire yard? Or just on weeds that I see?


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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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So just to make sure I'm on the right path. Tomorrow - mix those three things I just bought and spray. 3 weeks from now - repeat the first step.


Yes - You got it. See how easy it is.
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When weather warms up - spray MSM. Does the MSM need to be sprayed throughout the entire yard? Or just on weeds that I see?


Yes - when we consistently get into the high 80s in the afternoon. That is because the 2,4 D in the Weed-Free-Zone will damage the desirable lawn grass. The MSM Turf doesn’t have the high temperature restriction, and it also does an exceptional job killing some weeds that the “cocktail” doesn’t kill, for example bahiagrass that Dr Strahan thinks you have in your lawn. I had bahiagrass in my lawn - I’ve eliminated it with MSM Turf.

You can spot spray (spray what you see) the MSM Turf and use the spreader sticker surfactant, 2 teaspoons per gallon, when mixing the MSM Turf. The surfactant helps the weed to absorb the herbicide, and it’s particularly important for waxy leaf weeds and you have a lot of those in your lawn, the ponyfoot weed for example. The MSM Turf also works slowly (often 2 to 3 weeks to see results) and will usually require re-sprays for some weeds.

Lastly as a heads up since this is all new to you, you may have some weeds that will emerge later this summer like nutsedge, that will require a completely different herbicide than the ones being recommended for the weeds you have now. So there will be some additional herbicides you’ll likely need to apply in a few months but you can cross that bridge when you get to it.

This post was edited on 2/8 at 12:38 pm


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Thanks again. I will have some more questions about the MSM part you just talked about, but I'm weeks away from it, so I'll just wait.

I also read through the link you gave on page one. Some of it gave me helpful tips, but a lot of it just as well be written in Chinese.


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tigerlife36
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I had a huge bottle of simazine and mixed that with weed free zone. Also put out prodiamine today. Hope it helps this summer.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Is it safe to spray poa mania with this winter weed concoction using atrazine in Bermuda grass? I got a bunch and want to kill it but not kill my grass. The Bermuda is till dormant so it should hurt it right?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Ok I got it done. Is there anything I should be on the look out for as far as results at a certain time?


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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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You can also apply pre-emergent herbicide in the next week or 2 if you are able.



What exactly is pre-emergent herbicide? And what determines if I'm able to do this in two weeks, or not?

I noticed a reference to a thread on it, on this board. Did a quick look through and didn't see anything. Would like to read up on it.


CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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What exactly is pre-emergent herbicide? And what determines if I'm able to do this in two weeks, or not?

Your lawn has millions of weed seeds. A pre-emergent herbicide will kill the embryo of a weed seed when it germinates. When applied at the right time of the year it will dramatically reduce the number of weeds in your lawn, reducing the need to spray weeds in your lawn. Fewer weeds, healthier lawn, and vice-versa.

Now is the time in south Louisiana to apply a pre-emergent herbicide for spring/summer weed seeds that will be germinating soon. Another application will be required in the fall, mid-Sept/early Oct to kill cool season weed seeds. Some also apply preemergents in late April/May as a follow up to the Feb application. Not all weed seeds germinate at the same time.

It’s this post on the first page of the H&G board discussing pre-emergents LINK


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
So is this something I should be planning to do, along with the spraying I just did?

If yes, when would I do it? And what would I need to spread?

Just read up on that thread. Guess I'll be adding this to my list of things needed to do.


So now I'm looking at a schedule of

Yesterday - sprayed

ASAP - put down pre emerg


3 weeks from now - repeast spray

When weather warms up - spray MSM


Anything else I'm missing?
This post was edited on 2/9 at 8:38 pm


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Lastly as a heads up since this is all new to you, you may have some weeds that will emerge later this summer like nutsedge, that will require a completely different herbicide than the ones being recommended for the weeds you have now.


What are you recommending for nutsedge control on Bermudagrass?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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What are you recommending for nutsedge control on Bermudagrass?
Sedgehammer (halosulfuron-methyl)


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