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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
That weed &feed product contains atrazine. So if you want/need to spray, just use the weed free zone (4-way herbicide) alone or another “trimec” (3 way) herbicide (plus add the surfactant).
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Question not really related to the original topic.

Where I've been spraying has been in my front yard only. I have a back yard, with a fence, and the gap between the fence and the end of my property isn't much. I was probably going to round up and kill all of that along the fence line. Is round up the best thing to use to totally get rid of everything? And is there a temperature restriction on that?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
There isn’t a temp restriction on glyphosate. However, glyphosate bonds tightly with the soil so it becomes virtually inactive shortly after spraying. That just means no residual. Try something like glyphosate and oust or cheetah pro and oust if you are looking for veg control.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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There isn’t a temp restriction on glyphosate


Is this also known as round up?

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However, glyphosate bonds tightly with the soil so it becomes virtually inactive shortly after spraying.


So, what that means is it will kill all the grass/weeds and then the grass will begin growing back almost right away ?

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Try something like glyphosate and oust or cheetah pro and oust if you are looking for veg control.


Can you put that in idiot terms what that is?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Glyphosate is the active ingredient in round up. It will kill what you spray but you can have weeds and grass pop up a week later. Something like Oust is going to give longer term control.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Quick question I plan on spraying tomorrow, I’m a bit behind schedule. I wanted to know about the temperature with weed free zone. It’s supposed to be in the upper 70s tomorrow which is within the allowed range but it’s going to be in the high 80s next week. Does that mean it’s too late for me to spray weed free or is the temp the day I spray the only thing that matters? I have St. Aug.


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Quick question I plan on spraying tomorrow, I’m a bit behind schedule. I wanted to know about the temperature with weed free zone. It’s supposed to be in the upper 70s tomorrow which is within the allowed range but it’s going to be in the high 80s next week. Does that mean it’s too late for me to spray weed free or is the temp the day I spray the only thing that matters? I have St. Aug.

Temperature on the day you spray it - you’ll be OK.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Do you all not recommend anything to improve the quality of the soil?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Image: https://i.imgur.com/P4YvcGT.jpg



Updated picture of the yard. My second round of post emerg winter cocktail was applied at the beginning of March, and my first round of fertilizer was put down yesterday.

Yard is looking much better than it did in picture one. It is really greening up and beginning to grow fast already. There is a few spots in the yard where there is nothing, which you can kind of see in that picture. I'm assuming that the area was just overrun with clovers, and when I killed them, I'm left with nothing there? St Aug should take over that area soon I'm hoping.


CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
St Augustine should fill in those bare area pretty quickly. You can now start spot spraying MSM Turf for any weeds that escaped if you need to, and continue to cut the St Aug at 3 to 3 1/2 inches in height.


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and continue to cut the St Aug at 3 to 3 1/2 inches in height


Yeah, I always cut pretty high. My lawn mower is in the shop right now, but I'll measure when I get it back to make sure I'm high enough. Measure the height of the bottom of the deck from the concrete to 3 inches?

Also, I have an small area in the front yard that I had an armadillo digging. I couldn't get it to move out for shite. I finally filled the hole in with concrete and covered it with sand. That spot still has no grass coverage. Is there anything I can do to get the grass growing in that small spot?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I measure mine on concrete from the underside of the blade to the concrete. The deck sits lower than blade on my Honda. Also check your owners manual - it usually has wheel (push mower) or deck settings (riding mowers) for cutting grass a various heights.

Bare spot - take some plugs from elsewhere in lawn and plant in the bare spot to speed it along. You’ll need to water the plugs it frequently like if you were laying new sod.

ETA: check the thread “What’s Killing my St Augustine” - the OP has a photo where he plugged a bare spot.
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Couple of quick questions, after this update.

My yard is looking ten times better than it was previously. So thank you guys for all of the help. It has done wonders for my yard in just a few short months. Now to the questions.

1. There are a few areas where those white flowers, that you see during the spring, are popping up. Is that a sign of areas of undesirable grass growing? They are just in 3-4 patches throughout the yard.

2. I may have to make a decision on whether I'm going to use MSM or do my second round of pre emerg. (It's about the time I had scheduled to do another round of pre emerg now, and it's also the time where temps will allow me to use MSM). This Corona shite is sort of hitting us, with the wife being cut down to working 20 hours a week until an unknown time. So we are trying to cut back on the spending of things that aren't necessary. So, if I end up being able to do one or the other for now, which one should I do? I still have some of the stuff I used for the Cleggs post emerg spray, but I'm assuming it's too hot for that now. It also doesn't help that my lawn mower is getting repaired currently as well.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Catch me up on the white flowers? Did we id them already?

Temps will be favorable for the cleggs mix. Go with that if you have bare spots or thin turf is an issue. Atrazine’s pre em properties do not effect root systems. If your grass is thick do you have prodiamine?

As far as msm goes, if you don’t have a bottle get one.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Catch me up on the white flowers? Did we id them already?


No, but I'll take some pictures tomorrow.

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Temps will be favorable for the cleggs mix


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As far as msm goes, if you don’t have a bottle get one


Should I do some spot spraying of the Cleggs mix now, and then just do MSM later in the summer as necessary? Or should I just wait and grab the MSM in a few weeks and do just that?

I still have a few small spots of clovers that didn't go away after the first two sprays. I'm sure there are other weeds still mixed in, but I'm no expert at identifying them. I also have a very small areas, which were heavy weeds/clovers that have died off and left nothing. I added sand to those areas with fertilizer mixed in.

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Atrazine’s pre em properties do not effect root systems. If your grass is thick do you have prodiamine?


I used dimension as my pre emerg the first go round.


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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Since you already have atrazine, weed-free-zone at the house use those to spot spray the remaining white clover. Use it as the cocktail mixture, or either the atrazine or weed free zone alone - all will effectively kill the clover. With the temps this week, it will be safe to use them.

Given the choice, I’d buy the MSM Turf ($20 to 25 for a 2 oz bottle) - I’m on year 3 of using the same 2 oz bottle - and hold off on the late spring pre-emergent to save some $, and then use a pre-emergent in the fall. My rationale is you may start seeing some perennial weeds start popping up later this month or May, like Virginia Buttonweed, that the pre-emergent won’t have any effect on, but you’ll need the MSM Turf herbicide to control.

Another cost savings measure, is rather than do 3 fertilizer applications of the St Aug, just do 2, with the 2nd in June. Best of luck with your wife being able to get back to full time work sooner than later.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Given the choice, I’d buy the MSM Turf


Alright. I may end up getting both. Just don't know when all this crap would end. If I would know for certain everything would be back to normal in a month or so, I'd just go grab both now, but you never know.

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Another cost savings measure, is rather than do 3 fertilizer applications of the St Aug, just do 2, with the 2nd in June


I think I'll have enough in the one bag I have to get three out of anyway. So I should be good there.


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I'm about to go get the pre emerg and MSM. I'm going to hold off on the MSM until next week, but I need to cut my grass before this rain. Could I put the pre emerg down after I cut the grass, or is that a bad idea?


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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Yes - fine to cut grass and then apply pre-emergent.


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