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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
That last spray sure did the trick. In three days I was sitting with strictly dirt where those heavy patches were. As soon as the St Aug takes that over my yard should look great. Thanks for all those that helped get me on track and lock down that schedule.


CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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That last spray sure did the trick. In three days I was sitting with strictly dirt where those heavy patches were. As soon as the St Aug takes that over my yard should look great.

This is a good reminder to those new or learning about lawn weed control that there are some perennial and annual lawn weeds, dichronda being one, that are difficult to control and often require 2 or more treatments with the recommended herbicides to kill or suppress them, and this is often stated on the label of the herbicide.


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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This is a good reminder to those new or learning about lawn weed control that there are some perennial and annual lawn weeds, dichronda being one, that are difficult to control and often require 2 or more treatments with the recommended herbicides to kill or suppress them, and this is often stated on the label of the herbicide


Yep. I was 2 full yard sprays of the Cleggs cocktail, one spot spray of MSM and a spot spray of the cocktail again before I knocked out what I was attempting to. On my two full sprays I was a gallon per the yard. On my spot spray, I still did the gallon mix and really nailed those spots hard that I saw the weeds. They are still there scattered about, but the large areas I was fighting are dead. My yard temporarily looks like shit, but I'll spread some sand and if it's like the previous spots, the St Aug will slowly creep in. This was a tough battle, but thanks to the help in this thread, it looks like I'll win the fight.


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I'm back with more questions.



I noticed these things (whatever it is in the dead center of this pic) popping up. What is that, and how do I get rid of them?



These things are also in a few places in the yard. Same question as pic 1.




Picture three (if you notice where the grass is a darker green in a line). This is where my sewage line runs. It seems to have a mixture of both of those pictures. The grass is always greener and longer than the rest of my grass. Im assuming the sewage line is somehow causing this??? Anything I can do?


jimbeam
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Looks like dallis grass

Apparently Celcius suppresses it. I just wiped some in my yard with roundup to just nuke it.
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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
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Looks like dallis grass

Apparently Celcius suppresses it.


Is that all that will work on it? It seems like everytime I get one thing under control, something else pops up. My yard looks like total shite right now. I have big dead spots where I just killed that other crap, now I have this popping up in places.


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Bump in the hopes that Craw or Ronk read this.


LSUtigerME
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I’ll just say about the sewage line that if you have a filter bed or a leak, your grass will always be greener and grow quicker in this area. It provides nutrients and moisture for the grass to grow while the surrounding area does not. There’s not much you can do about it except to maintain well fed and watered turf everywhere so it doesn’t stick out.


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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
The top photo I see plants with Y shaped seed heads that indicates Bahiagrass. If so, that’s good because the MSM Turf you bought will kill it, but likely multiple applications will be required

Now, that same photo has has another plant that seems to have a cluster of 3 seed heads, unless it’s just the orientation of the photo, so I’m not sure. Could be some Dallisgrass - you might have two weeds.

Here is photo of both weeds with descriptive characteristics with a pic of the seeds heads in the insert, compare the seedhead with what you are seeing in the lawn and let us know what you think. I hope its not Dallisgrass as it’s difficult to control in St Augustine.



Link to this weed guide - page 116. Weeds of Arkansas

The darker green grass where your sewage line is located suggests some leakage in the line - sewage waste is high in nutrients.
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jimbeam
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Yeah some of those seed heads definitely look like Bahia but there’s also 3 (which makes me think dallis), sort of in the y shape of Bahia, maybe it’s just the camera angle

For his sake I hope it’s Bahia because like you said MSM will smoke it.
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oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
So, if it's Y shaped it Bahi, and I just hit it with MSM again.

If it's Dallis then what's the answer?

I'll have to give it a few days to look at it again. Just cut the grass yesterday, so it's all cut down right now.


Also, in photo 2, is that possibly the same weed as in photo 1, just without the seed head?
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CrawDude
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
I had a little bahiagrass grass in my yard a few years back and it took a couple years to eliminate it with multiple applications of MSM Turf. Seems like I’d spray every month or so during the summer. Mature plants take a while longer to kill so be patient.

Dallisgrass - I’m fortunate not to have have any - but it’s a tough one. Here is a good article on Dallisgrass control and there have been more than a few threads on Dallisgrass recently on the H&G board. LINK. But I’d wait a bit until we or someone else can positively ID it before you go to a lot of trouble, but for small amounts of Dallisgrass I think just spot spraying it or wiping it with glyphosate (“roundup”) might be the best approach.
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ronk
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
It looks like a bahia/dallisgrass combo to me. So both of those plants are members of the paspalum family of grasses. Bahia can be taken out so easily but its fat, ugly, older cousin dallisgrass always shows up to the family gatherings. Try the MSM again and see what clears out. Glyphosate might be in your future. Also, I agree with the leak in the sewage line. If anything lines, pipes, and cement yellow/brown the grass because of heat and soil depth (water retention). If it is always greener then you got some poo water coming out.


oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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re: Can I get advice/tips for my lawn after the winter? ::Updated with pics:::
Thanks for the help, once again.

I went get 10 fresh squares of sod just now. I'm going to fill in the areas that left dirt patches from finally killing the dichondra. I'll wait for my grass to grow, so I can identify the dallisgrass areas easier and then hit them with MSM after the rain next week.

The end of the month/beginning of next is my next scheduled fertilizer date. Should I do anything different, such as fertilize now or wait, with the fresh sod I'm laying down?


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