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A/C operation question?

Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21894 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:03 pm
Is it more efficient to leave thermostat set at one temp all day.....or Better to adjust up and down based as desired?

Fire away as it is a family debate every summer, and I want to resolve it.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3286 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

r Better to adjust up and down based as desired?




This as far as "efficiency" is concerned.

And its not a debate.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
2737 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:34 pm to
Not enough info.
Maximum efficiency and lower energy use can be very different things.
In general, upping the temp a few degrees will also slow down heat transfer between inside to outside. That is how energy is saved.
The equipment itself is generally most efficient when running non stop but that may depend on your ducting and other things.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21894 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 2:02 pm to
OK, to update my post, I'll give a scenario:
A) Leave thermostat on 74 all day/all night
B) Turn up to 78 during day when nobody is home and 72 at night

which scenario consumes more power?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22521 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 2:02 pm to
HVAC’s generally speaking don’t have different settings, they are either running or not running. So turning the temp to where the machine has to run less to maintain an easier temp is fairly obviously less energy.

As an example, to maintain 68 it may have to run 50 mins an hour, 70 maybe 40 mins an hour, and 72 maybe 30 mins an hour.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
9554 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 2:48 pm to
If you have a smart electric meter, test it out over a few days. Your house's insulation will affect the answer. Keeping something consistent is easier than warming it up then cooling it down a bunch, if it is capable of holding the temp pretty well.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3286 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 3:16 pm to
Its going to be a guess without measurements but I'd say this one:



quote:

B) Turn up to 78 during day when nobody is home and 72 at night

Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3286 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

easier than warming it up then cooling it down a bunch,



easier on what though?

Even if you have if you have a box with 10feet of closed cell foam in its walls, its still going to be more energy efficient to let the temp rise in the day. It will be an minuscule amount but it will still be an amount.


But if you're uncomfortable in your home then you need to re-evaluate your temp setting. After all, comfort is the primary purpose of conditioning the air.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12572 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 3:26 pm to
Consumer Reports tested this years ago and it was more efficient to adjust up and down
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5915 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 3:53 pm to

Thermodynamics says:

Turn up to 78 during day when nobody is home and 72 at night

Requires less energy. Why not 80 during the day and save more?


Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7948 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:10 pm to
Better to adjust up and down

We keep ours at 71 during the night, 75-76 during the day.

When first bumping it up to 75-76 in the AM, the a/c is at rest for a minimum of 3 hours.
In evening, when putting down to 71, it doesn’t take 3 hours of constant running to get back down.

So the 3plus hour break in the mornings saves $$$.

Also, it doesn’t run as long during the day to keep temp at 75-76.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61450 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:32 am to
quote:

When first bumping it up to 75-76 in the AM, the a/c is at rest for a minimum of 3 hours.
In evening, when putting down to 71, it doesn’t take 3 hours of constant running to get back down.

So the 3plus hour break in the mornings saves $$$.


this isnt perfect math though


if you left it on 71 in the morning, it likely wouldn't have to run very much during that ensuing 3 hours, so by allowing the temp to rise from 71-76, you have saved way less run time than 3 hours

it would also depend on the amount of minutes per hour it would take to maintain 71 vs 76


I still think its cheaper to raise the temp, just saying your math isn't correct

Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7948 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:47 am to
I didn't do any math.

I only stated that you save money when the unit is not running.

quote:

you have saved way less run time than 3 hours


Way less? If its an overcast morning or raining, it can be near 5 hours.

I get the math isn't perfect, but everyday it adds up to real savings.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2977 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 3:15 pm to
You also have to throw in how tight The house is. If you’re bringing in a lot of humidity, the unit is going to have to work to remove that humidity and that percentage of the work isn’t being used to draw the house temperature down. What the trade considers a properly sized house, there is little excess capacity to bring the house temperature down fast enough to support the original point of the thread.
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