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Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:37 am to
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:37 am to
I just read an article about germination enhancers in case anyone is interested.

1. Vinegar - 1 tsp to 1 cup water. Soak seeds 6-12 hours (but no longer than that) before planting.

2. Hydrogen peroxide 3% - 1 tbsp to 1 gallon of water. Soak overnight then plant.

Was wondering if anyone used one of these methods.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:28 am to
I figured out why my test is different… I called and they said they did a “no soil” test because it was a “potting mix” and primarily organic matter. Which is disappointing because I bought it as “garden soil” from the nursery.

That said, they said to immediately add Aluminum Sulphate to lower the ph. Then to add fertilizer upon planting.

Pretty frustrating but at least I know where I am. Probably not going to invest a lot into plants this year and just see how it performs after the adjustments.

For ref here are the results again.

This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:24 am to
quote:

hat said, they said to immediately add Aluminum Sulphate to lower the ph. Then to add fertilizer upon planting.


Aluminum Sulphate is faster acting but not as long lasting as elemental "soil" sulfur. You have to be careful not to over apply and it could build up to toxic levels in the soil over time. It's good for a quick fix but I'd definitely recommend switching to elemental sulfur for a longer lasting solution afterwards. You'll have to soil test frequently to determine the need. Good luck and I hope you can get some good results.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:42 am to
I’m good with not doing a quick fix. I’d rather even take a season and get the soil right. In addition to sulphur, should I be doing anything else besides adding in a balanced fertilizer?

Currently, have a nice layer of oak leaves and pine needles over the beds, and at the bottom of the beds are cardboard boxes that have probably broken down over the last 14 months.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:47 am to
quote:

should I be doing anything else besides adding in a balanced fertilizer?


You could throw in a micronutrient blend if you’d like. But that should be plenty good enough. I try not to overdo soil amendments. Correcting the pH should go a long way.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:45 pm to
Anybody use these for grow lights?

Amazon
Posted by Mr Sausage
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:22 pm to
Local nursery advertised tomato plants ready for purchase. It’s January.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Anybody use these for grow lights?


I’m sure they are fine, but for “grow light” purposes I’d add a reflector hood to them.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Local nursery advertised tomato plants ready for purchase. It’s January.


They’re hoping people buy them, lose them to a frost, then have to come back and buy more.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:35 am to
A warm February gets us all itchy to put something in the ground
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:19 pm to
My first attempt at this sort of thing. I am sure I will lean heavy on the box stores as usual, but these are things I do not see at those. Mostly paste tomatoes and a variety of peppers.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:19 pm to
I’m at about the week and a half mark and a good bit of my peppers have started sprouting. Kind of right in the middle of that 7-21 day range for most peppers. Even though I’m well aware that peppers can a while to germinate, I still often find myself growing impatient.

I was reading that some varieties, especially super hots, can take up to 6 weeks!
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 4:14 pm to
or sell to people who discuss their fruits and vegetables online on a fan forum and all being in a race to have the first ripe tomato in the spring.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 4:42 pm to
When I planted pepper seeds in that test run last year, they were all over the place. I had given up on the poblanos and they finally came up. Of all those plants, two of the poblanos are still alive as indoor house plants.
Posted by convertedtiger
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 4:46 pm to
Looks like someone likes Temu! Do you have them on a timer?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Looks like someone likes Temu!
Those actually came from Amazon.

No, is that something I should do? I have no idea what I am doing. Instructions didn't cover light use at all.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

No, is that something I should do?


Once they germinate, yes. Plants perform important respiratory functions in the dark. Give them about 8 hours of dark. I have mine on a timer from 6 am to 10pm.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:00 pm to
I can just make plugging and unplugging part of my routine.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

a good bit of my peppers have started sprouting.
Nothing here yet. But I don't use a heat mat. Soil is around 75, so I'm guessing I'm still a week out. Stubborn things...
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:22 pm to
Has anyone here started tomatoes yet?
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