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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread

Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:41 am to
Posted by Pezzo
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:41 am to
anyone getting ready to plant their fall gardens?

my spring garden did crap this year. with the birds and squirrels stealing it while its still green and the plants just plain stopping production in the heat, i think i harvested maybe 15 banana peppers from 2 plants, 0 tomato from 4 creole plants that had plenty on the vine, maybe 10 cherry tomatoes from 2 plants, and 1 cucumber from 2 plants. still got a cantaloupe on the vine that im hoping will survive the squirrels. also still got 3 creole tomatoes that's been green on vine for the last 3 weeks, no sign of blushing at all.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:45 am to
I tilled up my fall garden yesterday and need the advice of this esteemed board.

There are still some grassroots in the tilled area. I couldn't keep tilling them up because they are very deep and I was basically digging a pit.

Should I roll with it and plant or place a tarp over the tilled area to possibly choke off the grassroots from the sun and kill them?

Thoughts?
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1969 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:36 am to
im also moving my fall garden to a new section of my yard and will be tilling up the land. last time i did this i removed the turf grass and tilled any remaining roots into the soil and then tilled in the bags of garden soil and my plants did fine. i didnt try to kill off the roots of the surrounding grass at all. im also not a veteran gardener. only been at it for 3 years so far
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:00 am to
quote:

anyone getting ready to plant their fall gardens?


I'll probably start the fall thread in August. About the only "fall" plant I have going right now is pumpkins.

Between vacations, work, and other obligations keeping me busy, my garden is currently a mess. The watermelon vines have pretty much taken over. Also, plenty of weeds. And the pumpkin vines are beginning their run. I really need to get in there and do some cleanup, but this heat has me completely unmotivated.

I will probably scale back on the fall veggies this year. Once school starts I'll probably barely have enough time to even think.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81708 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:02 am to
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I'm about to do this with my 7' tall amish paste tomatoes.
Already planning for next year, as this season was my experiment with gardening season. I learned I hate growing romas. I see amish paste coming up as sauce tomatoes. Should I try them? Others for sauce only?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Should I try them?


They were some good tomatoes. But definitely not as prolific as the Romas. Much lower yields.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14721 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:19 am to
I am ripping my tomatoes and cucumbers out this weekend. What should I plant in the fall? I have never planted a fall garden.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12839 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:42 pm to
you guys are skipping the summer garden? How else do you get to savor sweating through your clothes by 9am on a Saturday?

Watermelons, Black Eyed Peas, Peanuts, Sweet Potatoes, Peppers, Butterbeans going strong.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1969 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
i may have accidentally hi jacked the thread with my fall garden question, but this weekend i plan to start seeding cucumber, okra, banana peppers, cabbage, and cauliflower.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26562 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

tilled up my fall garden yesterday and need the advice of this esteemed board. There are still some grassroots in the tilled area. I couldn't keep tilling them up because they are very deep and I was basically digging a pit. Should I roll with it and plant or place a tarp over the tilled area to possibly choke off the grassroots from the sun and kill them? Thoughts?


Following up.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81708 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

But definitely not as prolific as the Romas. Much lower yields.
Thanks. I may just try a few different things. I am done with Romas.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14721 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:52 pm to
I had tons of tomatoes this year. However, about half of them were eaten by bugs. I would have to pick them as soon as I saw any color change and let them ripen inside. Seven dust didn't seem to do anything to stop it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81708 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:26 pm to
I did that, but mostly because of mocking birds. I actually had a 100% bug free year. Pretty shocking.

I have been adding sliced cherry and/or grape tomatoes to anything that starts with onions and peppers. Replacing the bells with jalapenos. Made the best ground beef tacos I have ever had last night. Great beginning to mashed potatoes and corn as well.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34534 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:56 pm to
No worries about hijacking. People on this board are really cool. That being said, it's hard to think about fall gardening when it's a 110 degree heat index outside right now. Ugh.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81708 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:12 am to
quote:

They were some good tomatoes. But definitely not as prolific as the Romas
I did a search for "paste tomato variety pack" and found a deal on Etsy with a few of the ones I was targeting. Also grabbed a pepper pack. Now I need to learn how to do the seed thing better. The romas this year was my first attempt, and it only went ok.
Posted by Houstiger
Houston
Member since Aug 2007
370 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:10 am to
I dig up as much as possible. Then put down cardboard and cover it with hay. Cardboard breaks down overtime.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11407 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:11 am to
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That being said, it's hard to think about fall gardening


What do y'all normally plant for a fall garden? This will be my first year doing one.

I just planted a few different kinds of squash and melons. I'm planting a few tomatoes but I'm kind of tired of eating them at this point. Will do cauliflower and broccoli as well.
Posted by Longer Tail Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
186 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 6:00 pm to
Mustard and spinach are very good fall vegtables, if you like greens. Turnips also do very well in a fall garden.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81708 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:54 am to
I thought jalapenos would be safe from critters. Looks like rats will eat them. War is on. Caught one this weeks, and one of the bait blocks from my station was removed.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14805 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 11:22 am to
quote:

What do y'all normally plant for a fall garden?


I usually do broccoli, cauliflower, mustard greens, collards, cabbage, carrots, onions, and garlic.

This year I'll probably just do cabbage, mustard greens, carrots, and onions. Maybe garlic, too.

Other good fall veggies are brussel sprouts, swiss chard, turnips, kale, kohlrabi, lettuce, beets, radishes, spinach....to name a few.
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