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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:28 am to Loup
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:28 am to Loup
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Any tips to control leaf footed bugs? I lost ~50% of my tomatoes to them last year.
They are some SOB’s for sure. Once they get to adult size they are difficult to kill without synthetic pesticides. Permethrin is probably the best bet. I’ve also heard of people using hand held vacuums to manually remove them from plants.
The younger nymphs can be more easily controlled with pyrethrin or spinosad. These bastards and stink bugs are one of the biggest reasons I grow sunflowers. I find they are more attracted to the sunflowers and I don’t mind treating them with permethrin there. I just avoid spraying the flowers once they open so as to not hurt pollinators.
As far as your caterpillar problem, Bt is a good choice. But you may need to incorporate something else. Spinosad works well on caterpillars. Also one thing I started doing that I find made a huge difference was treating my surrounding lawn with insect granules.
ETA: One other thing you can try is to cover the fruit with a fine mesh bag and that’ll prevent sap suckers from being able to ruin your produce. I actually bought some last year but didn’t use them. But I have them on hand if needed. Something like this
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 6:33 am
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:47 am to BallsEleven
I've got one like that, just missing the midway blocks. Don't forget those, they're kind of a bid deal. 
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:05 am to PillageUrVillage
Y'all are correct about the flimsiness of the fabric bed. I'd hate for a seam to burst and lose all my dirt.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:27 am to BallsEleven
Same, doing my tomatos and flowers this weekend.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:48 am to PillageUrVillage
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PillageUrVillage
Thanks!
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I just avoid spraying the flowers once they open so as to not hurt pollinators.
This is why I was trying not to spray to much last year. In the past I'd used malathion because it's what my dad always used but I've heard there's a lot of issues with that one.
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Also one thing I started doing that I find made a huge difference was treating my surrounding lawn with insect granules.
something like this?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Spectracide-Triazicide-For-Lawns-Granules-20-lb-Insect-Killer/5001952515
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:00 am to Loup
That’ll work. I've used that and the ortho bug b gone granules (which is bifenthrin). It’s especially useful when the armyworms show up.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:48 am to PillageUrVillage
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leaf footed bugs
Every year I've got these things all over my yard long beans but they never do any noticeable damage. They flock to the top of my little teepee trellis setup for the beans. When I go to pick beans they get stirred up and fly off to the other bed but I haven't really noticed them being a problem otherwise.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:15 am to BallsEleven
Each one of the big trays are 162 cells. Hoss Tools sells them and I love them will last a lifetime.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 3:21 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:17 am to FowlGuy
Love the greenhouse setup! 
ETA: I don’t require near as many seed starts for my humble little garden. But they are doing well so far. I thinned everything down to the single strongest plant as of yesterday.
ETA: I don’t require near as many seed starts for my humble little garden. But they are doing well so far. I thinned everything down to the single strongest plant as of yesterday.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:54 am to PillageUrVillage
Looking good. I built that green house about 2-3 years ago but this is the first year I will utilize it like it is intended. I finally ran power to it so I can have heat during the cold nights it’s 29 outside now and 44 in the green house. I’m stepping it up, I want to have veggies year round now so I’m looking into getting a large caterpillar tunnel to protect during winter to grow lettuce and brassicas.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:39 am to PillageUrVillage
Well, I am getting a later start than I would like but here we are. All of my seeds have been planted and under the lights as of last Sunday. 5 of the 12 pepper plants that I overwintered are starting to leaf back out. I think I am going to let them now. I have changed to full spectrum lighting with some 5K white above running 12 hours now. My 20K's will be on my seedlings. Running 12 to 16 hours. We shall see how it all goes.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 8:40 am
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:15 am to convertedtiger
Anyone know where to find native azaleas ?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:23 am to PillageUrVillage
What kind of spacing are y'all doing for indeterminate tomato plants? I have two 4x8 beds that I put my tomatoes in. Last year I had 10 per bed and I think it was too tight. Was planning on doing 6 or 8 per bed this year.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:42 am to Loup
I do 2ft between each plant and 3ft between rows. A 4x8 raised bed should be able to easily accommodate 8 plants.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:43 am to PillageUrVillage
Am I supposed to remove the two lower leaves on these tomato seedlings?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:47 am to meeple
I do right before I bury them deep
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:52 am to eng08
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I do right before I bury them deep
This. I usually leave them alone until it’s time to transplant. Then I’ll snip off the lower branches and bury deep.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:53 am to eng08
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I do right before I bury them deep
Ok. The lower leaves just look like the initial seedling leaves with a more rounded/oval shape, slightly less green than the other pointier leaves that came out later.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:59 am to meeple
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The lower leaves just look like the initial seedling leaves with a more rounded/oval shape, slightly less green than the other pointier leaves that came out later.
They have a funny name. Cotyledons. Also known as the “seeds leaves”. They’re the first leaves to come out after germination. The next leaves to form will be true leaves.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:11 am to PillageUrVillage
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They have a funny name. Cotyledons. Also known as the “seeds leaves”. They’re the first leaves to come out after germination. The next leaves to form will be true leaves.
That's interesting to know!
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