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Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:54 pm to
Glad y’all mentioned the peppers lag on sprouting. Have almost all tomatoes sprouted but hardly any peppers.

Found a source for mushroom compost and hopefully mulch by the dump truck. Going to take the advice here and not nuke the vegetation and just build this years garden on top of it. Need to get moving because it’s close to potato time. We harvested a Can Am bed of potatoes last year before the ridiculous rains came in late spring.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/30/22 at 10:02 am to
So I searched for a bit on a good site for tracking chill hours and came across Get Chill.

It seems like a pretty good source to see how many chill hours you have had in your area. They have a link at the top of the page to find the nearest station to you, then put in the dates you want to count the hours and it spits out a couple of different hour totals based on different methods to calculate chill hours.

So far I've got about 360 hrs in my area which is kind of surprising with the mild December that we had.

Idk if I'll hit my safe 400 hr mark though, February is supposed to be on the warm side except for the very beginning.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5772 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:12 am to
My peppers are really lagging. My escamillo and carmen seeds have sprouted, but the rest are super behind. Should've started them earlier but oh well.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:11 am to
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February is supposed to be on the warm side except for the very beginning.


Ah, so Mother Nature is going to lull me into a false sense of security and make me think I can plant out early. Then BAM! Frost in April.
Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:34 am to
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Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:04 am to
For the last 12 years, I have transplanted the spring plants on the weekend of March 1st or March 15th. Only 1 time did I have to cover. I check the long range forecast and determine when to get 'em in the ground. My average last day of frost is 2/26.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Any of y’all know if it’s okay to plant blueberry plants now? Zone 8 in Alabama.


According to LSUag, fall/winter is the best time to plant blueberries because it give the roots a chance to get established before summer. So I’d get them in the ground now. They should be able to handle some frosts. I will say I have no experience with blueberries. But I hope to have a spot for some this fall and I’ve talked with the experts at my local garden center and they’ve pretty much said the same thing.

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I have transplanted the spring plants on the weekend of March 1st or March 15th. Only 1 time did I have to cover. I check the long range forecast and determine when to get 'em in the ground. My average last day of frost is 2/26.


My last frost date is March 14th. I’ve never lost anything as long as I’ve planted out no sooner than mid March. One year I had to leave town for business for a few weeks in early March, so being that I didn’t really have anyone to look after my seedlings I risked it and put them in the ground. I lost those to a late freeze. That was the only time (and definitely the last) I ever planted early.

But my impatience starts growing at the beginning of March. I just need to resist the urge.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:30 pm to
So, in the 2021 garden thread I would post updates on my beehive occasionally. We didn’t really have a dedicated bee thread and the posts were relatively few and far between. As pollinators, I see them as an essential part of my garden ecosystem. Unless anyone has any objections I’d like to continue that practice in this thread.

Continuing with my backyard garden expansion, one of the things I wanted to do was relocate the hive to my back corner (maybe 15 yards from where they were). So that’s what I was working on this weekend. Yesterday was sunny and warm. I needed to check in on them anyway, and I would have to break down the hive in order to move them. So yesterday was perfect.

First up was to frame a 12x12 area. My back corner has a slope, which is good because it stays dryer. But I had to level off the middle section where the hive would go. Then I laid down roofing paper which is apparently good for helping keep hive beetle larva from burrowing into the soil to pupate.


Did a quick inspection and the queen looks healthy with a good population. I’ll definitely have to watch out for swarming this spring.


And they still have a full honey super.


Before the inspection I threw down some cypress mulch. With the boxes broken down and sitting on a pallet while bees flew all around me, I moved the cinder blocks and landscape timber’s over to the new spot and leveled them. Then I put the box back together. Most of the bees returning from foraging eventually found their way. There were a few nasonov fanning at the entrance.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:38 pm to
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anyone has any objections


frick dem.

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roofing paper which is apparently good for helping keep hive beetle larva from burrowing into the soil to pupate.





I'm assuming you didn't block off the entrance when you moved them? I've heard even moving them a little distance, that many will swarm to the old spot for a while unless moved at night and you block the entrance.

Sounds like you didn't have much trouble though

Keep the updates coming. One day I'll convince the wife to let me block an area off like that.

Do you have any neighbors on the other sides of the fence? I'm curious if there are any issues getting that close with a mower.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:03 pm to
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I'm assuming you didn't block off the entrance when you moved them? I've heard even moving them a little distance, that many will swarm to the old spot for a while unless moved at night and you block the entrance.


I did not. I did move them closer to the evening when most of the foragers were already back. So I had done some reading up on this and most experienced beekeepers seem to have mixed opinions on it. Some say move incrementally. Some say as long as its close by they will find their way back into the hive. Also, winter time is the best time to move them because not many are foraging anyway. So I just went ahead and did the whole move all at once and best of luck to them. I'm sure they'll have to reorient themselves. As long as the queen is in the hive. They have a ton of honey stores and a healthy population, also there was a small amount of brood, so I have a feeling they will be fine. If this is a massive failure for some reason, I'll report back and let everyone know the lesson learned.

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Do you have any neighbors on the other sides of the fence? I'm curious if there are any issues getting that close with a mower.


I mow around them all the time without issues. But then again, I’m always fully covered and move along quickly when I pass. But still, no issues.

ETA: Went check on them when I got home and they appear to have quickly adjusted to their new spot. There are no bees in the original location, and I watched several fly in and out with a little bit of pollen.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 6:04 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:29 pm to
Very nice. I can barely keep my stuff watered, so no need in my plans. A new neighbor has several though and he’s only a few houses down.

I finally got my potting mix made yesterday and put 2 flats together this afternoon. I planted my tomatoes, bell peppers, and eggplants.

Flowers and other stuff will be in a few weeks.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3195 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:26 pm to
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I’ll definitely have to watch out for swarming


Best my hives have looked this time of year. If I see drone brood in the next couple weeks, I’m going to start grafting and splitting…. If the weather cooperates

Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:45 pm to
I've got a cousin in the BR area with bees. I really need to try and get her to convince my wife to be ok with bees in the backyard.


I'd probably have to give up the chickens though...
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136986 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
Thinking of building some raised planter boxes around 4'x18". What's the best non-treated wood to use for this? Would cedar be a durable wood to use?
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:25 pm to
Cedar or cypress would be a good choice.

Any reason for not wanting to use treated?
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15321 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 4:11 pm to
That box looks jam packed!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136986 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Cedar or cypress would be a good choice.

Any reason for not wanting to use treated?

There's a lot of arsenic in treated lumber that can leach into the soil. When you add fertilizer, it allows the roots to absorb it and sent it to the fruits
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:08 pm to
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There's a lot of arsenic in treated lumber


That’s true of the old treated lumber but they discontinued using the arsenic based stuff years ago. Now the treatment uses more copper. Plants are way more sensitive to copper than we are so they would die long before absorbing dangerous levels of copper for us.

Joegardner.com

About halfway down he goes in depth about treated wood.

I’ve been using treated for my borders and everything has been fine.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 7:09 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15321 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

There's a lot of arsenic in treated lumber that can leach into the soil.


Arsenic is no longer used in treated lumber and hasn’t been since 2004 I believe.

ETA: yep, just like Balls said.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136986 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:46 pm to
Well, treated pine it is
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