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PillageUrVillage
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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little/no gardening experience


Last year I read a book call The Backyard Gardener. Very comprehensive and informative. It covers just about everything. I highly recommend it.


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bluemoons
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
I gotta say that the Carmen peppers are the most versatile peppers I’ve ever eaten. They’re great for stuffing because they’ve got decently thick walls. They taste almost as sweet as the Jimmy Nardellos. It’s likr a bell pepper, just longer. The plants also produce a lot of peppers per plant. I didn’t top them FWIW.

I’ve heard that Marconi peppers are similar but the walls are a bit thicker. I suppose I’ll find out this spring.


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gumbo2176
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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As a person with little/no gardening experience, any old threads or articles I should read before starting?

I've been growing my own vegetables all year round for a couple decades now and no matter how much you think you know, there is always something to learn.

One site I belong to is helpfulgardener.com and it is a wealth of information on all aspects of gardening, whether it's vegetables, flowers, bonsai, etc. you are interested in. Give that site a look to see if it is of interest to you.


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lsuson
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
Pillage, it isn't necessary to plant your okra in early spring if you have room to plant other things. Okra grows well in the middle of the summer even in LA heat.

I grew a lot of different heirlooms this fall and the plants are just about done, but I'm getting quite a few tomatoes off each plant. I put all of them in 5 gallon buckets. Some did better than others. My kale is almost all eaten up. My cauliflower is filling out nicely and I should be harvesting them in a couple weeks. Carrots are doing well, but my soil may have been a little hard for some of the carrots because they are growing deformed and not long like traditional carrots, but they still taste sweet. I have a couple romas and better boys in the above ground beds that aren't really doing anything. They have a good bit of fruit, but they aren't growing. I may just pick the fruit and let them ripen on the window sill and pull the plants. I had some hard neck and soft neck garlic growing that I planted at the beginning of December. It's doing well. I also have about 60 onion sets that are growing slowly, but are healthy.

I really haven't decided what I'm going to grow this spring. I'm definitely going to grow a few cucumber plants, I'm deciding on either growing a carolina reaper or ghost pepper plant this spring. A buddy grew ghost peppers and his hot sauce came out awesome believe it or not. I'll plant a few bell pepper plants, mixed variety of herbs again. I'll probably grow some more romas, celebrity, creoles, as well as the heirlooms that did well.
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Black zebra tomato
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Young cauliflower
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Bill Parker?
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
If you pull those tomatoes, put them in a brown paper sack with an apple or banana and roll the top down. The ethylene from the fruit will ripen the tomatoes.


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ChenierauTigre
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
I have a Carmen plant in the garden now that is still producing. It has frozen here probably 5 times. I just threw some visqueen over it and it's still making yummy peppers.


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PillageUrVillage
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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Pillage, it isn't necessary to plant your okra in early spring if you have room to plant other things. Okra grows well in the middle of the summer even in LA heat.


Would April be considered too early? I would love to plant some other stuff, but my garden probably won’t be ready for anything until March at least. I’ll play it by ear. Plenty of time to make changes.


gumbo2176
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Would April be considered too early?


I usually plant okra in April, but I have a good size garden. Okra will grow well into September/October in S.E. Louisiana and produces very well when it is nasty hot. So you can plant it later if you want.

Another great thing about okra is it is heat and drought tolerant. When most other things are fading fast in my garden in July/August, okra is thriving. You really can't abuse it enough to kill it and the only way they stop growing in my garden is when I pull the plants.

Oh, and speaking of pulling them, be prepared for some pretty serious work when you go to remove them. My okra plants often have 3" or more round stalks at ground level.
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PillageUrVillage
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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Oh, and speaking of pulling them, be prepared for some pretty serious work when you go to remove them. My okra plants often have 3" or more round stalks at ground level.


Sounds like I’ll have some firewood for the winter.


bbvdd
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
I did a raised garden this past year and was amazed at the amount of produce we got.

We cleaned out the chicken coup and put all those shaving and crap in there.
The garden was a U shape with the long side 10ft and 4ft wide on the legs.

On one leg we had okra another we had 4 tomato plants.
Back side was squash.

I’ll try to find a pic


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lsuson
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
Like gumbo said, good advice. When I do plant okra, it’s usually in May. Another tip is when your okra is growing, it will literally double in size overnight and be too tough so when they are eating size, go ahead and pull them. Wait till the next day and it may be too big


PillageUrVillage
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
Thanks. Maybe I’ll plant a few heirloom tomatoes and some different types of peppers, then plant okra when the heat starts kicking the tomatoes asses.

ETA: Just ordered some Paul Robeson tomato seeds! Last couple of years I've completely forgotten about them. Almost happened again this year. They are one of the most delicious tomatoes I've ever eaten.
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nes2010
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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Winter garden is just starting to come in


My banana peppers are still producing from this summer. Hasn’t gotten below 30 degrees yet here.


VanRIch
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
I'll be planting some raised beds this spring, but I need to rent a bobcat to clear out a ton of stuff and the garden area will be part of that. Problem is, everytime I have time to do it, it rains its arse off the few days before. I'm really hoping things start to dry out so I can get it done.

Building something similar to this...
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prostyleoffensetime
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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I want to try corn this spring. Does it pollinate well if I do it myself or will I be wasting my time? I know it's a wind pollinator and I don't have a large garden but I was going to try and pollinate them myself.


You’ll be fine. The amount of pollen produced versus the kernel count is plenty... Usually, the biggest obstacle in corn pollination can’t be controlled. If it sets in and rains for a week and is funky during pollination, you’ll have a few blanks, but probably still won’t be too bad.

Also, be careful with your spacing and planting depth. Plant it deep for stalk and root strength and don’t plant it too close. You’ll have them competing for nutrients and might run into lodging problems.


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Cowboyfan89
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
I just started gardening this year. Started out with a few roma tomatoes, a banana pepper, cayenne pepper, and some heatmaster tomatoes in containers. Did pretty well with that (I've made somewhere near 20 pints of various pepper jellies from that one cayenne plant).

I then decided to do an in-ground winter garden (mixed greens, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, and brussell sprouts). Mixed results, but there wasn't a ton of planning that went into it.

So I'm working on plans for my summer garden now. If it would stop raining, I will get some soil samples taken. But for a first timer, what would the more experienced gardeners recommend on a good size for a first timer? I want to continue with some tomatoes and peppers for sure (my pepper jelly has been a big hit so that's a priority), but I'm also considering okra, snap beans, and eggplants. Anything I should stay away from in south Louisiana? When is the best time to start seeds (I've read the generic stuff from seed companies, but would like to hear what gardeners down here do.)?

ETA: Did see the book recommendation, so I will look into that.
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gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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So I'm working on plans for my summer garden now. If it would stop raining,


Rain this year has been a bitch for gardeners. Every time it starts to dry out a bit and I can start pulling rows, it rains again.

I was in my garden today picking several varieties of salad greens and I was up to my ankles in mud. My cabbages are huge, cauliflower are a good 10 inches across, broccoli heads are forming nicely, collards are producing all the leaves I need for smothered greens and my habanero pepper plants are still producing good numbers.

I've only got a bit more than 1/2 of my garden planted but it's been so wet I can't get out to plant the rest.

As for a good size garden, just plant the size you can maintain easily. I'm retired, so I can actually have a much larger one than I have, but I don't have the room in my back yard for much more than what's already there.

Start your seeds in January for the spring/summer stuff like tomatoes, peppers, eggplants. I find a lot of stuff does better directly sown in the garden like cucumbers, beans, salad greens, okra, soybeans for edamame, etc.

If you want some salad greens, plant them now if you have room and they will produce all winter long and into the spring but do bolt when it heats up to about 85 during the day. If you like spinach, try Swiss chard as an alternative since it grown much larger, can tolerate heat and makes a great spinach substitute.


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FowlGuy
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
Clemson Spineless, can’t beat it.


gumbo2176
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
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Clemson Spineless, can’t beat it.


That's my go-to for okra. Heavy producers, fast growers----once they pass 3 feet or so that is, and heat and drought tolerant to the point of being ridiculous.


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biggsc
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re: 2019 Garden Thread
My wife and I plan to build some elevated flower beds with vegetables, herbs and flowers


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