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What the Health Netflix Doc
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:44 am
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:44 am
So I watched the first 15 minutes of this documentary and I was shocked at how misleading this documentary is.
They literally said in the first 15 minutes, sugar isn't bad for you and doesn't cause type 2 diabetes. After prying my jaw off the floor I watched and little more and realized what this really was. A vegan agenda to demonize all animal consumption. I have no problem with people who go vegan or vegetarian, but I get extremely upset at people who purposely skew data for scare tactics
Be wary of this documentary fair warning.
They literally said in the first 15 minutes, sugar isn't bad for you and doesn't cause type 2 diabetes. After prying my jaw off the floor I watched and little more and realized what this really was. A vegan agenda to demonize all animal consumption. I have no problem with people who go vegan or vegetarian, but I get extremely upset at people who purposely skew data for scare tactics
Be wary of this documentary fair warning.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 6:45 am
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:16 am to mindbreaker
It's awful. My wife and I watched it out of curiosity. I knew what to expect going in, but once they got to the part about meat and dairy being racist I was just disgusted.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:23 am to mindbreaker
It was downright comical. And the number of people talking about it on Facebook as fact is unreal
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:26 am to mindbreaker
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They literally said in the first 15 minutes, sugar isn't bad for you and doesn't cause type 2 diabetes.
Were they insinuating that you can just eat however much you want without ill effects?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:36 am to rintintin
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Were they insinuating that you can just eat however much you want without ill effects?
Yep
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:37 am to rintintin
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Were they insinuating that you can just eat however much you want without ill effects?
If you don't eat animal products yes they were saying without animal fats carbs are harmelss
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:54 am to mindbreaker
I was visiting my mom, and we watched it (turned it off after realizing what a radical vegan hack piece it was). It was so terrible that I put on a 3-hour Dr Phinney lecture just to clean my mental palate.
I read about a full debunking forthcoming. I'll post if it's out.
I read about a full debunking forthcoming. I'll post if it's out.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:02 am to TigerTatorTots
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It was downright comical. And the number of people talking about it on Facebook as fact is unreal
This
All the "experts" on it also happened to be vegans. Yeah not biased at all. Also yeah no shite these obese people lost weight once you started restricting their intake. Shocking
It's sensationalised garbage and I'm shocked at the amount of people that have posted "my eyes are opened "
Some claims to be made about how we process our meat but even there they went too extreme to be taken serious
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:02 am to mindbreaker
I've had people recently tell me to watch it and even my wife got brainwashed for 2 hours following it before I explained to her that it was created by vegans.
If they had actual unbiased views from both sides it would be a documentary, that was just a film with a clear agenda.
If they had actual unbiased views from both sides it would be a documentary, that was just a film with a clear agenda.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:28 am to Adam4848
Also, the lady with debilitating arthritis who couldn't walk. Two weeks later she's off every med and hiking around the block
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:31 am to McLemore
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I read about a full debunking forthcoming. I'll post if it's out.
I think the Avatar Nutrition team is working on a full, thorough debunking.. but it is gonna take a long time. There's so much heinous bullshite in that "documentary"...
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:38 am to Adam4848
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that was just a film with a clear agenda.
Felt like a cult recruitment video
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:38 am to rintintin
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Were they insinuating that you can just eat however much you want without ill effects?
Their stance is valid to an extent. The problem is the combo of the two. I agree this sounds like a total Vegan hit piece that does more to dissuade people from vegans than help. If you pound meat and dairy and then desert after and bowls of carbs with zero vegetables, it's a problem. It's the Standard American Diet.
You can live and be healthy eating plant based. Corn, potatoes, rice. Civilizations lived off of these through history. Meat was/is a luxury. Here meat became the staple.
Diabetes 2 is a combo of many things. But mainly the standard American diet and lifestyle. If you were active and only ate carbs (not refined sugars) you'd be better off than the standard American.
Are meat eaters evil? Nope. Are steak and chicken delicious? Yep.
I will never again treat meat as my dietary staple though. That's as far as I will go on the Vegan train. Cutting mucho meat and dairy out. But I agree many of these documentaries are ridiculous. But there are others as well on the other side. Eating bacon wrapped hamburger patties can not be good for you. Lol
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:57 am to mindbreaker
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What the Health Netflix Doc by mindbreaker
So I watched the first 15 minutes of this documentary and I was shocked at how misleading this documentary is.
It only got worse from there. I watched the whole thing, and I honestly started to think it must be satire, but they were actually serious.
The best part was when they said, and I quote, "eating 1 egg a day is worse for you than smoking 5 cigarettes a day."
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:57 am
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:25 am to LSU alum wannabe
I agree and like i said a vegan lifestyle isn't bad heath wise.
Personally i run a 40% lean meat 40% non starchy vegetable 20% fruit diet and im healthier than i have ever been at 38
My biggest problem was the whole refined sugar is cool aspect. Non natural and added sugar is top five one of the worst things you could put in your body. The fact they tried to make out it wasn't bad literally put me in a rage.
Personally i run a 40% lean meat 40% non starchy vegetable 20% fruit diet and im healthier than i have ever been at 38
My biggest problem was the whole refined sugar is cool aspect. Non natural and added sugar is top five one of the worst things you could put in your body. The fact they tried to make out it wasn't bad literally put me in a rage.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:19 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:46 pm to mindbreaker
I finally got around to watching this. Fascinating misuse of %'s. Besides
The host, I love this guy. He will call the ADA and ask why they promote "x" and then list off some random study that the poor receptionist doesn't even know about. He makes it as some giant conspiracy that animal products are killing us, and it's been known for 50 years. He states his questions a bit too question-like. Oh! plus, he drives a hippie van! (score more points).
It brilliantly shows horrible animal factory farms.
Now we are on the ADA interview, he is totally coming across as "WTF" stating studies that show associations only. I am betting his "cure" of T2D with studies are the Ornish studies that also have the diet group reduce stress, excersise, and change their way of life while the control group did not do any of these...but we wouldn't know that.
Now we have a Stevie-O interview - Nice.
Corporate sponsorship - I didn't know M&M's produced a meat product, gosh that was fun to spot.
I love nutritionfacts.org founder Dr. Michael Gregor all in this. The "How Not To Die" author looks like the standard of health... /s
Now on to the Pharma conspiracy - I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, but more of a where the money goes.
Now we are going in deep to factory farming!
Now let's ask the overweight guy if we can get all proteins from plants...let alone not mention the bioavailability of said protien from plants vs meat (it is more available in meats).
First fiber mention! lets do this! (it is not an essential nutrient).
"The biggest, strongest animals on this planet are all herbivores" - let's not bring science into this now....ahem, genetics? Stomachs? All of these herbivores get their energy via fats, (gut bacteria breaking down cellulose converting it into short chain fatty acids) it is just a couple of more steps that they do not mention.
Chimp mention (figured it was coming soon) Actually, our stomach acid is much stronger than omnivores. But let us go back to the overweight doctor and find out!
Lower cholesterol - but total cholesterol isn't associated with lower cvd, it actually goes up.
Now showing creepy woman walking without a stroller again, doesn't she look healthy!
Dr. Gregor convincing me to take up sugar instead of meat.
Two weeks plant based and now completely off her meds, all of them....I bet. No real doctor would recommend that in two weeks, maybe two months.
Vitamins - b12 from supplements...that's natural. What about K2? or other fat soluble vitamins? No mention of those essential nutrients.
muscles and herbivore mention again.
Very fun little show. Too bad it was incredibly misleading and had a flair for the dramatic.
The host, I love this guy. He will call the ADA and ask why they promote "x" and then list off some random study that the poor receptionist doesn't even know about. He makes it as some giant conspiracy that animal products are killing us, and it's been known for 50 years. He states his questions a bit too question-like. Oh! plus, he drives a hippie van! (score more points).
It brilliantly shows horrible animal factory farms.
Now we are on the ADA interview, he is totally coming across as "WTF" stating studies that show associations only. I am betting his "cure" of T2D with studies are the Ornish studies that also have the diet group reduce stress, excersise, and change their way of life while the control group did not do any of these...but we wouldn't know that.
Now we have a Stevie-O interview - Nice.
Corporate sponsorship - I didn't know M&M's produced a meat product, gosh that was fun to spot.
I love nutritionfacts.org founder Dr. Michael Gregor all in this. The "How Not To Die" author looks like the standard of health... /s
Now on to the Pharma conspiracy - I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, but more of a where the money goes.
Now we are going in deep to factory farming!
Now let's ask the overweight guy if we can get all proteins from plants...let alone not mention the bioavailability of said protien from plants vs meat (it is more available in meats).
First fiber mention! lets do this! (it is not an essential nutrient).
"The biggest, strongest animals on this planet are all herbivores" - let's not bring science into this now....ahem, genetics? Stomachs? All of these herbivores get their energy via fats, (gut bacteria breaking down cellulose converting it into short chain fatty acids) it is just a couple of more steps that they do not mention.
Chimp mention (figured it was coming soon) Actually, our stomach acid is much stronger than omnivores. But let us go back to the overweight doctor and find out!
Lower cholesterol - but total cholesterol isn't associated with lower cvd, it actually goes up.
Now showing creepy woman walking without a stroller again, doesn't she look healthy!
Dr. Gregor convincing me to take up sugar instead of meat.
Two weeks plant based and now completely off her meds, all of them....I bet. No real doctor would recommend that in two weeks, maybe two months.
Vitamins - b12 from supplements...that's natural. What about K2? or other fat soluble vitamins? No mention of those essential nutrients.
muscles and herbivore mention again.
Very fun little show. Too bad it was incredibly misleading and had a flair for the dramatic.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:53 pm
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