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Wellness Screening/Cholesterol

Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:36 am
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
781 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:36 am
I’m a 39 year old male who has to do an annual wellness exam for insurance purposes. I used a nurse practitioner who didn’t explain any of the results. Looking at the numbers they don’t seem good.

HDL=44
LDL=126
Triglycerides=172
Total Cholesterol=205
Blood Pressure=110/80
Weight 226
Height 6 feet

Are these numbers worrisome for my age?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35405 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:44 pm to
Weight is troubling unless you're a serious body builder.

Trig:HDL ratio is troubling.

So yes.

Eta: fortunately, the solution is very easy (and the same) for both. Lose 40lbs, or even just 25.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:55 am to
They aren’t bad

HDL, is about average. You’d like it closer to 60, but its over 40 which is good

LDL again, ideally below 100, but your in the near optimal range since its below 130.

Triglycerides are a little elevated, ideally you’d like below 150, but 172 is nothing to be overly concerned about.

Total cholesterol ideally below 200, 205 isn’t very concerning.

I think your levels are pretty good. Other poster seems like he is trying to scare you.

Could you benefit from a low dose statin? Sure, but just about everyone can. I don’t like to take prescription meds unless it’s absolutely necessary and this is not the case for you. Idk what your body fat % is at 226 to recommend losing weight or not. You don’t need to be a “serious bodybuilder” at 226 and 6’0 for it to be an acceptable weight.

Overall I’d maybe improve your diet a bit and make sure you’re exercising 4-5 days a week and you’ll be fine.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:31 am to
They are on the lower average end. Personally of the same opinion of McLemore and you need to lose weight. Need to be below 200.

I would also suggest you look closely at resting blood sugar. And look into take pure pomagranite juice daily to reverse any plaque build up.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35405 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:28 pm to
With all due respect this is shite advice.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11160 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:05 pm to
Lose some weight, eat a little cleaner and your numbers will improve. Avoid getting on a statin.
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
781 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:43 pm to
Yeah I’m focusing on weight loss and exercise.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:14 pm to
Btw nothing wrong with a statin. If you don't get side effects then take the damn thing even if you do improve everything naturally.

It is a pill proven to help you live longer, improve overall health and cost pennies for the generic. This whole I don't wanna be on a script thing or phobia this board has is stupid.

But McLemore have you the correct advice, not the other guy. And 226 @6' is not an acceptable weight unless below 15% body fat. Good luck
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:40 am to
How is that shite advice jackass? His numbers are barely out of range, first line treatment is diet and exercise.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:41 am to


Tell me how I’m wrong? You know for a fact what the OPs body fat percentage is? Recommended body fat % is 18-24. Incredible people without medical training come on here and offer advice that is completely wrong
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Tell me how I’m wrong? You know for a fact what the OPs body fat percentage is? Recommended body fat % is 18-24. Incredible people without medical training come on here and offer advice that is completely wrong



Number 1- in range doesn't mean good. It mean barely acceptable.

Number 2- unless he is using steroids, pretty much his natural limit for ffm at his height is between 180-185 lbs. That means even if he has been lifting for 20 years doing everything right he is still 20% body fat. The chances he has been lifting that long and is coming here asking for this kind of advice is slim, which means he is prolly in the 25%+ range and prolly in the 30% plus range.

Number 3- recommended bf% is 18-24%....?? By who? 24% is fricking fat. Hell I am 18% right now and I consider myself chunky. 20%+ isn't healthy. These ranges have been creeping up for decades to normalize the obesity epidemic.

Number 4 - BMI is a great indicator of healthy problems. It only doesn't work for less than 5% of the population, those that are serious athletes and those that train extremely hard or have been training a long time seriously. His BMI is 30.6 which is obese. Again he is fricking fat, stop sugar coating it.

You were real nice in your reply, but the info you gave him was sugarcoating the situation.

As far as medical training, I think it's funny as hell you say that when clearly his numbers are not good when reviewed against what the medical community recommends for ranges and for what is optimal.

Of course his first treatment is diet and exercise. Diet should be the foundation for treatment of every disease. But for people who don't get side effects there is nothing wrong with taking a statin. Just because it is a drug and has a stigma doesn't mean it's not a good thing.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:30 am to
I said he would benefit from a statin. As would everyone. But its not recommended unless he has diabetes or is a smoker. I literally do Cholesterol, BP, BG screenings all the time. His numbers are not bad. Could they be improved? Yes. But there is nothing in his results that are concerning especially with a blood pressure of 110/80.

If he had diabetes, or smokes, or has high blood pressure, or a combination thereof, then it would be a little concerning.


quote:

Number 2- unless he is using steroids, pretty much his natural limit for ffm at his height is between 180-185 lbs. That means even if he has been lifting for 20 years doing everything right he is still 20% body fat. The chances he has been lifting that long and is coming here asking for this kind of advice is slim, which means he is prolly in the 25%+ range and prolly in the 30% plus range.


This is just totally wrong. I don’t use steroids, I’m 6’0 and weigh 229. My body fat last I checked was 18.5% and I’d put myself up against anyone on this site in terms of being in better shape. Weight is meaningless number


Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86448 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:36 am to
quote:

I’m 6’0 and weigh 229. My body fat last I checked was 18.5% and I’d put myself up against anyone on this site in terms of being in better shape. Weight is meaningless number


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:59 am to
quote:


This is just totally wrong. I don’t use steroids, I’m 6’0 and weigh 229. My body fat last I checked was 18.5% and I’d put myself up against anyone on this site in terms of being in better shape. Weight is meaningless number


How long have you been lifting? How do you lift? I ask because even if you are telling the truth(you very well could be based on bf%) you are still going to be a very very small % of the population.

And the 185 is based off being below 10% bf. But in general that number is pretty damn spot in unless it's one of the exceptions I said.

More than likely though you are much more than 18.5%. if measured by dexa I can almost guarantee it.

As far as his numbers and statin, I didn't say he needed or didn't need one. Just that the phobia on this board needs to go away.

As far as his numbers, they aren't terrible but not good either and the trig number along with weight is concerning and I would be concerned with build up.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:08 pm to
6 years
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:26 pm to
Unless you have elite genetics or you have used PEDs you are not carrying that much muscle. Sorry, just not happening.

If you are, you should look into dieting down for a show as you would kill it.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11219 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:34 pm to
Lol. I mean you can look at my previous posts what I lift. I used ligandrol like 2 years ago. Thats it. I got on the scale at this morning at 229.4, body fat at 18.5%.

And actually I hired a coach, and I plan on doing a classic physique comp next summer
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
781 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:56 pm to
Well I’ll go back to me since I started this post. I’m about 30% fat and I know it’s bad.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38202 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I’m about 30% fat and I know it’s bad.


That is your biggest issue right there.
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