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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Dunno if you could call today a success or not. I are pretty much to plan minus the Bear eggs. Just haven't had much of an appetite which is to be expected when not slamming processed food all day.

Workout well.....it didn't happen. Been really sore all day, not sure but if it was the wreck or more than likely from hitting the weights hard after taking 3 weeks off. I tried rowing but just too sore so gonna eat a steak and call it a night. Work has sucked lately and it's draining me and keeping me stressed, ready for the weekend.


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Lazy But Talented
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Cage free eggs that much better than regular eggs?

Can I run ground beef instead of steak? I'm poor.

Any whey protein at all on this shit? Or can you use egg whites to help hit protein macro?

PPL with airdyne sprints after each lift an ok split?
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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
They both are better but not gonna hurt to do regular eggs. And yes you can run beef. Don't do like me though, vary your diet unless you want to run it like this.

Main take away is the macros
Cals-8-12xbw start with 12, only lower as needed.

Protein-35%
Carbs-5 %
Fat-60%

Could even lower protein to 30%

As far as when goes, sure. But later on after you get sub 12% cut out all diary

Ppl is fine, airdyne is fine.


Lazy But Talented
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Still fluctuating between 222-225. That would put me at 2700 calories. Seems fricking high.

I'm gonna try to keep the diet as simple as possible.

Similar to yours.

16:8
Black coffee
Salad with avo, olive oil, and vinegar
Coffee with tbsp of heavy cream
Then just red meat and eggs (cooked in unsalted grassfed butter?) for meals 2 and 3
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LSUfan20005
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Curious on your long term size/composition goals; I think we are both mid 30's.

I came to the conclusion late last year that I've got to abandon the cut/bulk cycle and find a sustainable balance in the next two years. Hoping to find a sweet spot.



lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Yes cook in grass fed butter, ghee, brown butter or coconut oil


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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Long term would be 190-195 sub 10% by the end of the summer would like to be 182 sub 10%, 185 sub 10 by end of the year.

I carry about 168 lbs of lean tissue right now according to my last 2 dexa scans which is a gain of 10lbs in last 2 years. So I am not far off from where I want to be.

But I'll never stop trying to get bigger because that means stopping to get stronger, but I don't do dirty bulks anymore and after this year would like to try and start below 15%. Bulk for this year will be +300-500 calories a week so very slight surplus.

What about you?


Lazy But Talented
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Got a new scale that shows a body fat percentage.

Showed 26% at 226.2 this morning. Seems high.


Going to start this Sunday.
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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Those don't work that well to know actual percentage but they do good for trends. Do it every morning after taking a piss and before you eat/drink anything and it will consistent. That's the key to seeing the trend


Lazy But Talented
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Gotcha.

Starting the keto today then diving into the red meat and eggs only tomorrow


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McLemore
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
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Cage free eggs that much better than regular eggs? 


I know I'm a broken record with my Omega 6:Omega 3 ratio stuff, but I think it's up there in importance with avoiding trans fats (getting the ratio as close to 1:1 O6:O3 as possible, that is; everything has so much 6 these days due to processed veggie oils, soybean, canola, etc that we are all out of whack w the 6:3 ratio.).

Cage free/free range omega 3 enriched eggs are the way to go, due to the not insignificant PUFA content of eggs. If you shop around a bit, you can find ones that aren't much more than reg. Trader Joe's for e.g. Kroger. Costco. Even Wally.

ETA Disclaimer: i haven't researched to see how much of the Omega 3 in flax-fed (I think that's basically how they enrich) chicken eggs is bioavailable. Unlike the Omega 3 in fish and other animal products, the O3 in plants (e.g. flax, chia) is only 10% max (less in men apparently) convertible to DHA and EPA, which are key. So, I may be exaggerating the importance. However, i do find true free range eggs much more tasty and I'm certain better for you that the el cheapos. I want some chickens, but my dogs will certainly eat them.

Grass-fed butter isn't as important re omegas given butter is almost all saturated fat, but it has other benefits over regular. However I've read Kerrygold isn't 100% grass-fed due to grain feeding in the winter. Haven't verified by going to Ireland and observing. Field trip time.
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Planning on grabbing cage free from Costco.


McLemore
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
They're really not much more than the regular there. In fact, they even have a big pallet of cage free white eggs for super cheap. they aren't "organic," but i don't really trust that label much anyway.

I'm a sucker and buy organic as long as it's not absurdly more than non.

I just did a quick google re: the Omega 3 issue I mentioned above. I haven't fact-checked any of this but some interesting info in the comments:

LINK

quote:

Recent studies suggest that in order for an egg to have an omega 6:omega 3 ratio close to the 2:1 that is thought to be favourable according to Paleolithic principles, the hen producing the egg would require a special feed beyond that of simply being free range. A 2009 study found that "omega-3 enriched eggs" contained an omega 6:omega 3 ratio of 2.27:1, whereas both "organic free range" and conventional eggs maintained a ratio of 10:1 (Samman et al. 2009).

Other studies have mentioned that the nutrient composition of the egg varies greatly with the feed given to the hen, and that consuming eggs modified to deliver higher amounts of omega 3 fatty acids "may lend a health advantage" (Shapira et al. 2010, p. 273).

Additionally, in response to your idea of absorption by the human body, I agree with the comment above that suggests the chicken does most of the processing. Ferrier et al. (1995) and Oh et al. (1991) both demonstrated that consumption of omega-3 fats from eggs were reflected in the blood profiles of humans - suggesting their easy assimilation. In fact, chickens are thought to be great 'factories' for making nutrients bioavailable to humans (hence the wealth of literature suggesting all kinds of 'designer' eggs rich in antioxidants and such).

Anyway...enough of my rambling...all of this was just to say that I believe that there is an advantage to omega-3 enriched eggs simply because they pay attention to the feed given to the hens above and beyond simply letting them be free range. So the research suggests that it is more than simply an 'on paper' attraction as you suggest.


pardon hijack. i'm eating a fat ribeye and loaded cauliflower mash "potatoes" for dinner tonight. (and i ave 4 eggs a day.) now time to hit the iron. wait, that's beer.
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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
yea i mean free range are way better but the best thing to do it go to a local farmers market and get your eggs. 99% will be free range and of better quality than anything you get at the grocery store and much much cheaper too.


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oleyeller
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
i have my own chickens. Get 40 or so fresh eggs a week


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lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
So today was a seafood day like a good Catholic. Had salmon and tuna sashimi for lunch. My big salad with a lbs of boiled shrimp for dinner.

Lifting tonight I did

Seated db press
70's x 8-personal rep records
55's x 8
40's x 15

Weighted chins
Be+15 2 sets of 8

Close grip bench-185 for two sets of 8

Weighted pushups-40lbs for two sets of 12

Frequency method chins and pushups today.
Will do burpees and deadlifts tomorrow.

Got to say, I haven't lost strength but I have no energy, dunno if it's stress from work or what but have zero. And I'm sweating like crazy all damn day. Metabolism is through the roof, I think that might be while I am tired at be the end of the day.


Lazy But Talented
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
What are your thoughts on pre-workout and keto diet?
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Junky
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
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Got to say, I haven't lost strength but I have no energy, dunno if it's stress from work or what but have zero. And I'm sweating like crazy all damn day. Metabolism is through the roof, I think that might be while I am tired at be the end of the day.


This is the result of an adaptation process. You need to force more beef down. Sounds crazy, but your body is feeling underfed. You'll feel better upping the food and heading into next Friday.


lsu777
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re: Vince Gironda's Steak and Eggs diet, a journey into strict keto
Depends on which one. If it is full of sugar then no it's a no go. Has to be zero calories to work


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