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Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:36 am to
Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:36 am to
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Hour in Zone 2 this morning on the trainer. I think I need to bump-up my time on these to see more Zone 2 benefits.


Zone 2 is most effective for high volume trainers who would be too fatigued if they were training at a higher intensity. A 1 hour zone 2 ride isn't going to move the needle very much. My training length/intensity is based on what I'm doing the next day. For that it's good to know what intensity + volume you can train at and be recovered enough for your next effort. Intervals.icu is pretty good at predicting fatigue buildup for me.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:46 am to


For reference, yesterday was a sweet spot trainer ride in the morning and then leg day in the gym in the evening.

Tomorrow is VO2 max intervals in the morning.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:53 am to
I think I’ve mentioned this previously, but if you’re serious about this you should not be doing gym work now. You’re accumulating fatigue your body doesnt know what to do with. I do gym work in the “off season”, which is early winter because i’m not doing any structure until at least January.

The previous posters comment about zone 2 is accurate. You seem to be a little crunched for time so you need to maximize the time you do spend on the bike. Minimum zone 2 for me is 2 hours. If i only have an hour im doing 50 minutes of straight sweet spot or v02 intervals etc
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 11:55 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:07 pm to
I'm serious about it, but not enough give up gym work. That is how I got into this, and I think it has certainly been beneficial-but only recently (last 2 weeks primarily) detrimental. That coincides with an increase in reps and decrease in rest.

My VO2 max intervals yesterday were subpar, again, due to leg soreness from Monday. I am going to re-tool my Monday leg days to back off some so as not to ruin the rest of my week's cycling. I realize my progression is going to be different than if I was doing only cycling right now, and I accept that.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/23/25 at 7:38 am to
Took Friday totally off.

Group ride on Saturday. Felt good until mile 44, then right calf tried to cramp after about 12 miles with A group. I admit I didn’t hydrate like I should have leading into the weekend. The first part with B group was fast, so it was otherwise a good ride. Total of 66 miles.

30 minutes sweet spot last night.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 7:39 am
Posted by TigerV
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 12:20 pm to
Lurked a little bit on the health board but never post much. Found this thread the other day and skimmed a few pages back.

I had ridden a good bit about 14 years ago, and then took a few years off that turned into way too many. I had a dumb trainer and would ride that a few times a year, but those suck. I broke down and bought a kicker core with the cog and click rode a little off and on the past year. I decided I wanted to actually take this serious about 2 months ago and started the Back to Fitness Zswfit program. I actually like that program, but quickly realized I need to add a few more rides during the week - I just browse the workout and find something that looks fun in the timeframe I have. FTP tested low 155 and I found the workout pretty easy, so I bumped it up to 165. I tested again recently and it was higher, but I still think this is just poor strength endurance on my part so I artificially bumped it to 185. Five more weeks of back to fitness and I am adding 2 workouts a week that are 60 min minimum, but looking to extend to 90+. Did an 82 min workout last Sunday that was fun, barely able to finish that one.

End goal - I don’t know, be able to go on some rides with local cycling group for a few hours and not die. Eventually work up to a century ride.

To build that endurance, I was thinking of going straight into the Gran Fondo training plan after this initial program and see how it goes from there.

What are some thoughts on rides I can do to supplement the training program, or is looking at the recovery types rides along with endurance program rides good enough to start. I do like the structure of these as I get my feet wet and build some endurance.

Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:12 am to
Man-I’m pretty new to this. There’s a couple of guys in this thread that know much better than me and can probably advise on supplementing your current training plan. I’m still feeling my way around on a bike.

Hopefully those with more experience will chime in.

Does your local group/cycling community have categorized group rides? A, B, C? Ours has an A drop ride, B no drop, and C no drop. A and B follow the same route but B starts 10 minutes ahead, C has a shorter route. I started in C group and got to know the guys and gals and got my road craft up a bit, then moved on to B.

If you have local group rides that accommodate your level of fitness, I’d say go ahead and get out there and start working on your road skills and meeting people. You can’t get that on a trainer.
Posted by TigerV
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:37 am to
Yea. There are some group rides I know of affiliated with a tri team that I am affiliated with (son is on the youth team and wife runs with the running group). The local Sun and Ski does have weekend rides with categories as you have stated, but the other bike shops have rides too I can reach out to. I am mainly getting my legs used to riding right now, but need to ride outside very soon.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:44 am to
You’re lucky if you have that many group rides to choose from. Then again, it’s nice to get in with one, learn the personalities and riding style of the riders, and then feel “safe” in that group.
Posted by talmaniandevil_25
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:14 am to
Got a TacX Flux 2, and need a Cassette for My Giant Contend AR 3 with the Sora. Would any 9 speed cassette work?
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:27 pm to
Yes. any 9 speed hyper glide cassette should work. Just watch the tooth count and make sure your rear derailleur can handle the spread.
Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:48 pm to
I have been working up to do a 24 hour mountain bike race. I had planned on doing it as a single speed. My goal was to do 100 miles which will take 10 laps (11 mile laps). 4 in the morning. 4 in the evening after 6 when the sun sets and cools off. Final 2 early am. Unfortunately I injured myself sleeping. Woke up 11 days ago to pain in the vertebrate between my shoulder blades. Could barely move for 24 hours. Gradually got better with rest and celebrex. Happened before 3-4 years ago. MRI said spinal stenosis and arthritis on those vertebrate. When they get inflamed they press on the nerve and cause pain. Tried riding after 3 days rest when it felt about 80% better. Really bothered me after about an hour on the bike and set my healing back. So I stayed off the bikes and have been resting ever since. Felt about 95% yesterday. So I did a tester ride. 25 miles on the single speed with about 2k feet of climbing. Wore my ultra light 220g gravel helmet instead of my MTB helmet. There was some discomfort but it wasn't too bad. The worst happens when I have to stand up and mash hard on the pedals while pulling hard up on the bark, like a single leg deadlift. I have until today to register for the race. Can't decide if I want to just drop back down to the 12 hour or keep on with the 24. I have another 10 days to rest up and heal. But right now I'm not sure I would want to do 24 hours with this inflammation in my neck.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:25 pm to
Set 3-9 minutes power records today. Feeling good going into triple bypass
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:30 pm to
Hell yeah.

A couple guys from here left for Steamboat today. That looks like it will be fun one, too.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:30 am to
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TigerV


If your just coming off the couch and you have a zwift subscription just pick one of the "ftp builder" plans or something intended to build your base level fitness and get used to doing some structure. dont do all your riding on the trainer. if you're doing structured workouts on zwift try to get outside for at least 1 or 2 longer endurance rides.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:36 am to
There is a local XC race this weekend but i'm probably going to skip it. i've only been back on the mtb 3-4 times since breaking my hand and it's still not 100%.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:22 am to
Steamboat looks fun. Just need to get a gravel bike first
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:34 am to
My gravel bike doesn’t see enough use. I think I may take it out on Sunday.



Failed at VO2 max intervals yesterday, again. Going to back off Monday legs some more. Did sweet spot training today for an hour.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 12:49 pm
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