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Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:37 pm to
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daggum that dude shreds.



He loves it, and I feel blessed that I can do it alongside him (thought not nearly at his level, obviously).

Heading to Santa Fe to ride for a couple of days tomorrow, then gearing up for Nationals for enduro in a couple of weeks out in North Carolina.
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 5:06 pm to
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12/24 hours Iron Maiden race is this weekend. I'm racing 12 hour single speed. Race day prediction is 99 degrees. It's been so mild so far this year I think yesterday was the first ride in 90 degree weather. I'm not sure if I'm 100% heat adapted yet. I was shooting for 6 laps which was a reasonable target. But 99 degrees throws another variable into the equation I've never dealt with. 1-2 hour rides in 99 degree weather is one thing. But racing for 12 hours is something else all together.


Damn. Be careful out there. Probably not much you can do outside of cooling off every chance you get. Maybe put some ice bags in your cooler you can stuff down your jersey every pit stop. I’d freeze some bottles too knowing they’d melt down pretty quickly once they’re in the cage.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Nationals for enduro in a couple of weeks out in North Carolina.


where at?
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 3:37 pm to
Rock Creek. We are staying in Hendersonville.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 5:34 am to
Ah yea, i see it’s in zirconia.. you guys gonna hit up Pisgah while you’re here? Hendersonville/Brevard area is great
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 12:28 pm to
I hope we get to. We'll be pretty focused on the park where Nats are being held and getting familiar with that terrain, but we hope to ride some other places as well while we're at.

I'm just hoping my wife likes it, so we can start making more trips to the East. She's convinced that it's going to feel very similar to Northwest Arkansas in climate/culture/scenery, so she's not enthusiastic about going. I've been to the area, so I think she's going to be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 5:18 am to
Yea she’ll probably like that area more than Bentonville
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:10 pm to
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12/24 hours Iron Maiden race is this weekend. I'm racing 12 hour single speed. Race day prediction is 99 degrees. It's been so mild so far this year I think yesterday was the first ride in 90 degree weather. I'm not sure if I'm 100% heat adapted yet. I was shooting for 6 laps which was a reasonable target. But 99 degrees throws another variable into the equation I've never dealt with. 1-2 hour rides in 99 degree weather is one thing. But racing for 12 hours is something else all together.


Curious to hear how this went

Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:38 am to
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Curious to hear how this went


Results are in. Race finished. Long hot day. Had a lot of fun. Learned a lot. Failed to meet my goal of 6 laps but that the reasons were more inexperience instead of being physically capable.

1st lap. 9am big mass start. Put myself towards the back but the race starts on a big steep climb up a fire road and I'm in the middle of a lot of one lappers running hot laps once I reach the top. Instincts have me keeping up with the pack and I'm running zone 3-4 so it's not too much effort. About mile 4.7 I come across a good friend's son and former athlete I coached on our interscholastic team who has flatted. I stop to help him out. Pinch flat with no sealant. He doesn't have any tools or supplies so I lend him my pump and spare tube. We aren't able to pull the valve stem off by hand so we can't get the new tube in. Struggle with trying to remove the valve stem for several minutes. Other people stop and help. Eventually just put it back together gave him my pump so he could ride a bit pump it up again ride some more just to get back. Took this time to take in a gel and water up. Crossed the start/finish at 1hr 22min. 58minues of moving time. The 1st lap was the shortest and cut out about a mile of switchback in favor of a really steep road climb that helps space out the racers on the first lap. Watch registered 89-90 degrees this lap.

2nd lap. I was party pacing and didn't care about lap times so I didn't prepare bottles before hand. Refilled my bottles between laps, one with straight water one with an electrolyte mix. Grabbed 3 gels and downed another. Stopped and talked to several people I know at the race. Seeing how their 1st laps went, how their kids were doing, some people I have not seen in a while, etc. Instead of a couple of minutes between laps to refuel I ended up taking 10+ between laps with a lot of socializing. Feeling really good this lap but I did lower the pace. I ran a lot at threshold on the first lap when I was supposed to be z2-z3. Heat is really starting to rise and I can feel it. Watch registered 93 while I was on the move. Stopped a couple of times to see if riders with mechanicals needed any aid and would take in a gel when I did, and one just to consume a gel. Put in a slightly faster lap than my first at 1h21m. 1hr6m was the moving time. Downed both bottles of water and 3 gels that lap.

3rd lap. Stop to fill bottles, refuel, and socialize again. They were serving free cold brew coffee at the race so I take a black cold brew which really hit the spot and start my 3th lap. Same as the 2nd except the heat is starting to pick off riders. I stopped 4 times for riders stopped on the trail because of heat. 2 were OK just stopping because they were starting to overheat. One was sitting with another rider and in distress. They has emergency services coming to evacuate her. A 4th at mile 8 was out of water and was just sitting on the side of the trail on verge of tears. She only had one bottle and was out of water. I made her drink some of mine and tried to get her to take my spare bottle but she said she was OK. Sat with her for a few minutes to make sure she was OK. I had her dump some of my water down her back if she wasn't going to drink it and went on my way. Watch is registering 97 degrees most of the lap. Heat was getting really oppressive. I've been losing way more water than my body could absorb. I've got a belly full of water yet I feel like I'm starting to dehydrate. 1hr24m on this lap. Both bottles completely drained. Just past 1PM and the hottest part of the day is coming up.

4th lap. I've lost about 50 minutes because of stoppage and should have been closing in on my 4th lap. I was still feeling really good at this point I just needed to hydrate. Decided to break for lunch to rehydrate and take in real food. I hosed my head off with a water hose to cool down wash the grime off my arms and legs. I ate a couple of uncrustables and some salty peanuts and prepare my bottles. One with water and ice and the other with scratch. Grab another cup of cold brew and start off. Now my watch reads 99 degrees and the heat becomes a real burden. By the 4th mile my ice had all melted. By the 6th my fresh water bottle was so hot when I squirted some down my back to cool off it was hotter than my body and felt like bath water. About 1/4 way through the lap started trying to sit as much as possible to try to conserve my energy and keep the legs strong. In the end this was my downfall. By the 7th mile I started to feel some burning/chaffing on my butt. I have arthritis and spinal stenosis around the C8/T1 and it was really starting to hurt. Looking at my garmin data I stopped 5 times on this lap to take in gels, to cool down and keep my heart rate down, and stretch out a bit. Most of the stopping happening on the back 5 miles as various aches and pains started setting in.

I got back in around 3pm. Legs and energy level felt good but after changing into dry clean kit I realized I don't think my chaffed butt would let me sit and pedal any more. I've been riding mountain bikes since the mid 90's and this is the first time I've ever had any chafing down there. Only thing I had was some hand lotion to ease the pain so I gave that a try to see if it would help. At 6pm when I was planning on heading back out I realized there was not way I could comfortably sit on the saddle for another lap. The temperatures really dropped as a rain shower came through and they paused the race at 6:30 not letting any riders back on the course and the storm front blew through. At 7:45 they opened up the course for one last lap and I was REALLY tempted to run one last cool night lap with lights but decided I didn't want to take the risk of turning uncomfortable chaffing into a serious injury.

I feel like I could have easily gotten the 6 laps in with better strategy. I've already begun strategizing for the race next year. I'll wear my bib and jersey and bring multiple dry bibs instead of my more casual liner and shorts with Hawaiian shirt I was wearing. Strategies to prevent any chafing will be the biggest change. Less socializing between laps. Maybe leave a few minutes after start to keep myself from the temptation of riding hard at the start with the big mass start. Can't wait until next year to try it again. I think I could do 7 laps at least
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:47 am to
Wait…. Did you say “casual liner and shorts” for 12hrs???
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4059 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Wait…. Did you say “casual liner and shorts” for 12hrs???


In my defense I normally do 4-5 hour rides in hot weather sans chamois with just normal athletic boxer briefs. Single speeding mountain biking normally doesn't come with a lot of sitting. Thought I could make it 4-5 hours with the chamois and be able to change into dry kit. Which looking back is what I did I should have changed in my 30 minute break for lunch.
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 3:14 pm to
Sounds like a cool event and you could definitely do more laps if you truly raced it.

Also agree that a light liner is pure insanity - I wouldn’t ride 30 min without a chamois. You’ve got a tougher arse than me.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6463 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 5:19 am to
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Any recs for a good front gravel tire?


I've ran 5 sets of gravelking SKs in either 43 or 38mm. I recently swapped to the OG gravelking slicks in 38 as I'm doing more road than gravel on that bike with my recent move. You could split the difference with the SSs if you wanted which gives you slicks and side knobs.

Either way, I'm a believer in gravelkings and won't ride anything else at this point.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 5:22 am
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14904 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I normally do 4-5 hour rides in hot weather sans chamois with just normal athletic boxer briefs.


Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4658 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:14 am to
Got back from USAC Nationals for Gravity last night. The boy ended up taking 5th in enduro, which met his goal of making podium. We are all stoked, because we know it's a good result but also a little bummed because it could have easily been 2nd or 3rd without a couple of little errors. He suffered from a pretty bad migraine two days before the race, and he's never really had that before. Ended up incapacitated for almost a full day of practice and finally puked and rallied but battled the headache the rest of the day. Puked the morning of the race as well, which he's dealt with before, but the headache didn't return. Anyway, trying to figure out how to deal with the pressure/stress he's putting on himself. I always try to get him to keep the vibes light and stoke high on race day to encourage flow state, but he struggles to not get stressed. After this weekend, he says his mantra is "Train like a race, but race like you're just riding" We will see how it works out.

The week out in North Carolina was fantastic. Riding was excellent and got to crawl off to some water falls and spend some post-ride afternoons on the creeks.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14904 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:39 pm to
Bummer about the migraine, but still a good result!

Glad you guys enjoyed NC!
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 8:04 pm to
Let’s see if we can revive this thread. Hopefully the weather is cooling down for y’all.

I posted earlier in the summer about my race schedule and wanted to give a quick recap.

Crusher in the Tushar- 69 mile, 10k vert gravel race. Absolute sufferfest, would not recommend. It’s basically a 5k climb, big descent followed by a few miles of flat then another 5k climb with a mountaintop(over 10k feet) finish. Very hot and the back half climb was fully exposed to the sun the whole way. My garmin data had a point where I was crawling up a 14% grade at 3mph at a HR 168bpm and it was 109 degrees. That tells you everything you need to know about how brutal this race is. Was happy with my time and it was a great test but don’t see myself going back.

Leadville Trail 100- 105 miles, 12k vert at elevations hitting 12,500ft. This was my second time but still an absolutely epic experience. Would highly recommend if you have the desire and an opportunity to get in. Dropped well over an hour from last years time and super pumped. Will be back in ‘24.

Next up have a small local race and a 50 miler in late October before taking some time off.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:23 am to
Keegan absolutely blitzed both of the course records for those races. I have been going good as of late. Set my all time 10 minute to 17 minute power records this past Sunday. Ended up holding 300 watts for 17 minutes adjusted to sea level that is 320 watts at 146 lbs.
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:39 am to
Hell yea that’s awesome. I don’t have a power meter but going to invest in one soon. I don’t know my numbers at all but know that’s damn impressive at 146lbs.

Keegan’s on another level. When we crossed paths at Leadville I was in disbelief when I didn’t see anyone behind him for about 10 minutes.

A guy I know who is very fast(~7 hours at Leadville) was on a group ride with him recently. He said he set a 3 minute power PR sitting on Keegan’s back wheel. My buddy was on his road bike and Keegan was on an MTB.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4658 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:56 am to
Just listened to Payson's podcast episode on Leadville where he breaks down Keegan's power file for the race (it's awesome that Keegan posts all his power files). It's a pretty incredible accomplishment. All of the riders in the GP are just sort of befuddled on how to keep up. Payson's explanation was that Keegan's physiology just deals with altitude differently than the other riders, so he has an insane advantage at altitude but that it may (they hope) not be so marked when they drop back down at races like Big Sugar.

Payson was very adamant that he trusts Keegan and doesn't believe he's doing anything unethical (even though some people have insinuated that might be the case since the GP and FKTs and such aren't as heavy with anti-doping regulations as other disciplines).

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