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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Bench 190 x 12 -> 225 x 10
Press 105 x 10 -> 140 x 8
Squat 255 x 7 -> 305 x 9


thats damn good progress. you gonna be going a long time at those rep maxes. Thats awesome. It proves you can't start too low and you need to build up momentum.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5093 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:08 pm to
I feel like I’ve been stalled out on squats for a while. I hover between 225-240. Weighing in at 235 I feel like there is still a ton of room for improvement. Any ideas on how to break through?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:00 pm to
What have your last few weeks looked like?
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5093 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:35 pm to
For the last couple of weeks I’ve been doing the greyskull basic template with weighted chins and then the iron cross workout you suggested. I’ve never strayed much from greyskull squat templates. However I have been taking my 3rd set down to 135 and hammering out as many as possible. But my stalls on squats were happening long before I tried that. Most everything has been a steady progression but squats not so much. It makes me hate them.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 5:44 pm to
Are your reps going up at 135? How long has it been stalled? Why not perform a reset and set rep records?

Try switching them out for front squat, but you should perform a reset first.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:08 am to
Question: I’m training for cardio on my non-lifting days and started using couch to 5K. Would that be too much or hinder my strength training?

ETA: I also wear a 30 lb plate carrier when I run
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 7:11 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:49 am to
Don't wear weight when running, to much wear and tear for a non athlete.

Are you doing conditioning on other days?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:41 am to
No I only do conditioning on non-lifting days. And I wear the vest because I’m actually training for a job that would require me to run with that weight regardless. I’m trying to simulate what that would be like. I’ve doing conditioning on non-lifting days for a couple of weeks, but it was more HIIT stuff rather than just running.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 11:15 am to
quote:

No I only do conditioning on non-lifting days. And I wear the vest because I’m actually training for a job that would require me to run with that weight regardless. I’m trying to simulate what that would be like. I’ve doing conditioning on non-lifting days for a couple of weeks, but it was more HIIT stuff rather than just running


Oh ok if its sport specific to wear the weight vest go ahead. What I normally tell people is to pick an exercise out of the greyskull conditioning books and do one on Wednesday and one on Saturday i.e. deadlift day and the day after your last weight session of the week.

From there you can add sessions if needed. Now in your case if you need to run longer distance I would suggest looking in the challenges book and pick out the challenge that most closely resembles what you need to so specific wise and make that challenge your bitch.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 11:30 am to
Sounds good. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:43 pm to
Hey man, so I finallyhit a wall I think. Had a stressful week at work last week, been doing more yard work on top of it, and started doing doing hill repeats ( have to get conditioned for backpacking trips comng up). Long story short failed to get 5 reps on squat today, was only doing 1x5+ for my top set, and 2 lighter sets, might have gotten 5 reps but didn’t want to put lower back at risk , felt form wasn’t solid and bar felt heavy. I can try to repeat but feel bot worth risk. Same exact scenario with trap bar deadlifts on Thursday but did get 5 reps, barely... Today also misssed bench, got 3,3,4. Feel I could milk it and add another 10-15 lbs to bar if I continue with JP’s 3x3+ powerlifting set/rep scheme to extend cycle. Lastly, standing Press hit 3x5 with 130 lbs, possibly one rep in tank and if I microload can extend cycle with 3x5 till I hit 140lbs. Curls going strong, bodyweight homework going strong. Should I still do as you suggested and drop 15-20% off bar and repeat same lp since I’m under 300lbs on main lifts? Do I keep Press going as is or reset all 4 main lifts? Should I tweak anything next cycle? Lastly do I need to take a week off, if anything I don’t feel I should as I was only averaging two workouts week and sometimes hitting a main lift only once every 7-9 days, feel might be feeling detraining effect, how should I proceed in your opinion? Thanks
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:25 pm to
Don't take a week off in your case. Remove 20% from lifts that failed only sticking with 5+ on last set not 3*3 as you aren't a powerlifter who only cares about a one rep max. After press fails, reset it too but milk as long as you can.

You are doing the rings program with the main lifts right? If so maybe back off the static holds a little
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:26 pm to
Don't take a week off in your case. Remove 20% from lifts that failed only sticking with 5+ on last set not 3*3 as you aren't a powerlifter who only cares about a one rep max. After press fails, reset it too but milk as long as you can.

You are doing the rings program with the main lifts right? If so maybe back off the static holds a little
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 9:01 pm to
Not doing any special rings program just chins homework 3 x a week at night consisting of 3-5 negatives primarily and in my workout in place of rows, doing either inverted rows with bar or TRX straps, if anything that is pushing me closer to unassisted chins, do frequency pushups 5x a week as well
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
Sorry got you confused with someone else. What assistance program are you doing?
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 9:21 pm to
Not much assistance other than bodyweight stuff , barbell curls and bodyweight rows and 45 degree back extensions along with 4 main lifts
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:28 pm to
You aren't over doing it then. Just perform the resets as described.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:51 pm to
Ok thank you...
Posted by steve123
Member since Jul 2011
1361 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:57 pm to
lsu777 -

What are your thoughts if I'm on my second run through on Greyskull (I reset once) and have now plateaued again on bench at roughly the same place that I did last time (3x5 with 205). I failed twice at 207.5. Should I do another reset, switch to 5-3-1 program, or focus more on incline and close grip and put flat bench on the back-burner for now? Thanks
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22387 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 1:06 pm to
Technique, CG bench, and dips. You probably don't need to change routines.
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