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re: Optimal recovery for an absolutely brutal calf massage?
Posted on 1/23/25 at 10:41 am to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 1/23/25 at 10:41 am to Big Scrub TX
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I guess what I'm saying is we know if the underlying dysfunction isn't addressed
You can do this at the same time. You aren’t going to cure dysfunction overnight, but you can control symptoms to where you can build more volume in order to be able to handle the work needed for the cure
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:43 am to Big Scrub TX
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Perhaps a philosophical discussion, but I don't really agree that muscles can be "lengthened" - at least not in a meaningful way that actually respects the individual's physiology.
For the most part I agree with this. When it comes to "lengthening" I usually refer it to shortened/tight muscles, and the lengthening is just establishing the previous length.
I've found that most rehab is a philosophical discussion. Lots of clinicians out there that have their own methods and preferences.
I apologize for sounding abrasive earlier, wasn't my intention. I like MAT, solid program, and with adopting DC electrical stimulation, results will be there.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 12:23 pm to PrezCock
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I apologize for sounding abrasive earlier, wasn't my intention. I like MAT, solid program, and with adopting DC electrical stimulation, results will be there.
No worries. You ain't lying about the electrical stimulation - it was brutal for the practitioners before they had that tool. But I meant what I said about confusing the nervous system. If MAT, e.g., is being used to re-train various muscular pathways to re-activate, doing some hardcore deep tissue massage is likely going to conflict with that.
I'm now extremely regretful of all the time I put my joints under the stress of the Theragun.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:06 pm to mtcheral
I mean yes it’s a long time but the relief I feel after (even if the pain is severe during massage) is substantial.
Are our calves so sensitive just due to them adapting to extreme use/overuse? Standing, walking, carrying weight, running, etc? Where the muscles are so overused where they’ve adapted to being “jacked up”? Or is this thinking incorrect?
Are our calves so sensitive just due to them adapting to extreme use/overuse? Standing, walking, carrying weight, running, etc? Where the muscles are so overused where they’ve adapted to being “jacked up”? Or is this thinking incorrect?
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:07 pm to PrezCock
I will take note of what you’ve said. And will look to see how I can change.
I am curious why you would refrain from what I’m doing? I am not challenging what you’ve said, but am curious why I should back off.
I am curious why you would refrain from what I’m doing? I am not challenging what you’ve said, but am curious why I should back off.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:08 pm to scottydoesntknow
From running, constant standing, weight training, and wearing low heels.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 8:46 pm to The Silverback
Try finding a hot tub with strong jets and massaging calves with the jets.
Stumbled on this solution a couple months go and it's been working.
Couple times a week as maintenance to stay loose.
Also same concept with the bottom of your feet. Notice a huge difference with this.
Stumbled on this solution a couple months go and it's been working.
Couple times a week as maintenance to stay loose.
Also same concept with the bottom of your feet. Notice a huge difference with this.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 1:40 pm to The Silverback
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am curious why you would refrain from what I’m doing?
Nothing wrong with myofascial release. I personally find it extremely effective. Rolling with a steel tube for an hour on each calf may lead to tissue damage (muscle, tendon, artery/vein, and nerves). Think of bruising. If you are rolling your calves that bruising occurs, then you are effectively destroying capillaries. So instead of using myofascial release to improve blood flow into the area, which aids in recovery, you are hindering it. I'm using that as an example and I have no clue if you get bruises after doing it.
Flat soled shoes should actually lead to better ankle ROM which will lead to a more normal calf muscle length.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 4:10 pm to PrezCock
So rolling for 10 minutes and applying a hold instead a roll?
No bruising occurring yet.
And change shoes?
No bruising occurring yet.
And change shoes?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 6:09 pm to The Silverback
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So rolling for 10 minutes and applying a hold instead a roll?
No bruising occurring yet.
And change shoes?
10 minutes or so per calf should be effective enough. The bruising was just an example of tissue damage that may occur.
For Shoes; wear what you are comfortable in. But if you are having calf tightness, wearing a shoe with a raised heel can put that calf in a shortened position (Think of at the top part of a calf raise). Being in that shortened position over an extended period of time can lead to tightness in the calf and weakness in your Dorsiflexors.
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