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re: On Mounjaro for two months, my take ****New Update pg 11 w photo****
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:42 pm to ronricks
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:42 pm to ronricks
ron - let me break this down for you. (because I do respect your input on this board)
I don't think you will grasp this today , but hope that one day soon it will click.
*note: I acknowledge your contributions to this board. I have taken note of things you post about lifting and nutrition that is quite valuable, and I do see you as one of the more knowledgeable posters on the health/fitness board -so it almost pains me to suggest that you:
Please stop posting on GLP threads. When it comes to GLP-1 or peptide knowledge in general, you should remain quiet and try to learn more...
You are erasing years of credibility.
I don't think you will grasp this today , but hope that one day soon it will click.
*note: I acknowledge your contributions to this board. I have taken note of things you post about lifting and nutrition that is quite valuable, and I do see you as one of the more knowledgeable posters on the health/fitness board -so it almost pains me to suggest that you:
Please stop posting on GLP threads. When it comes to GLP-1 or peptide knowledge in general, you should remain quiet and try to learn more...
You are erasing years of credibility.
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:48 pm to Mo Jeaux
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If emphasizing protein intake and focusing on a calorie intake that is slightly below maintenance is wrong as opposed to just "taking a pill"
1) noone was addressing you
2) noone said anything about protein intake or calories
3) noone said anything about taking pills
If emphasizing things that werent said on a message board is wrong, I dont want to be right.
You arent right in your post , you arent right on your position on GLP-1s, and you are just a buffoon in general.
Nice try bud , but next time try to be more factual, and also GTFO of threads that you have no knowledge on. (this being one)
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:51 pm to ronricks
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It’s all right here in black and white
See, this is where you are wrong , and likely why you will always be incapable of understanding things. Not just this topic, but most things in life are not black & white. Don't be obtuse.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:11 pm to ronricks
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This reads like one big ad for NOT taking these drugs. Big Pharma has hooked another one. Congrats.
Because you would rather somebody stay fat than find a way to better their health. That makes no sense at all.
Remember that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So I'm doing something different this time and hoping for different results. I'm very good at losing weight. I can diet and exercise and lose just fine. Once I get where I want to be, I just cannot seem to stay there. The difference this time is that I can stay on semaglutide while I maintain my weight until I can learn maintenance and figure out how to stay in the right place. My plan is to stay on about 6 months after hitting goal and then wean off. Because every other time, I've never been able to maintain more than 1 month or so.
No matter what happens, it's not worse than staying fat, which seems to be what you'd recommend because it's obvious to me that your way does not work for me or many others.
So according to ronricks, your choice is either his way (not successful for many) or stay fat. That sounds really stupid when you can try something different.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:36 pm to LaLadyinTx
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My plan is to stay on about 6 months after hitting goal and then wean off.
This will not work. You have failed three times in the past you said so yourself. You either will have to stay on for life or you will revert back to being overweight. Your plan is not sustainable. It will not work.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:55 pm to ronricks
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This will not work. You have failed three times in the past you said so yourself. You either will have to stay on for life or you will revert back to being overweight. Your plan is not sustainable. It will not work
Fine with me. What I did before didn't work. But instead, you'd rather I just stay fat. I appreciate that. I really do. Ronricks says everybody just needs to stay fat and die if his way doesn't work for them.
Thank you very much, but I have things I want to do.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:05 pm to LaLadyinTx
Ron says you need to make LIFESTYLE changes not rely on big pharma. You are unable to commit to lifestyle changes you’ve said so yourself. You will revert back the very second you stop using.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:28 pm to ronricks
I'll echo Swole above. I've read many of your posts in various threads. You are very knowledgeable in many aspects of health and fitness.
However, your absolute stubbornness regarding any sort of grey area on this topic makes your posts useless as they are completely biased.
However, your absolute stubbornness regarding any sort of grey area on this topic makes your posts useless as they are completely biased.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:38 pm to ronricks
All I’m gonna say is your moralistic view you like to cast over everything is tiresome. I promise you are not perfect but you like to act like you are and anyone that does it a different way is wrong and immoral
Overall since glp-1s have become popular, you have become a complete and insufferable douche bag anytime they are brought up and derail every fricking thread that mentions them with your elementary understanding of things.
If you don’t want to use them, cool, but you don’t have to derail every thread of people just looking for fricking help
Overall since glp-1s have become popular, you have become a complete and insufferable douche bag anytime they are brought up and derail every fricking thread that mentions them with your elementary understanding of things.
If you don’t want to use them, cool, but you don’t have to derail every thread of people just looking for fricking help
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:28 pm to ronricks
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ronricks
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I think the lesson here is if something works for you and you think you are getting some benefit from it then do it. 'Studies' today are a joke so many of them are manipulated by who is funding them or doing the 'research' etc. Think of all the asinine 'study' results we have had in the last two years alone. What works for me isn't guaranteed to work for you and vice versa. Use yourself as a test rat and go from there.
This is your own post from another, unrelated thread last week. Why does it completely go out the window any time someone brings up semaglutide? Jesus dude
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:28 pm to lsu777
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putting LSUA-75 on the list of guys to never take advice from
Well,I know 6 people that had laparoscopic gastric sleeve surgery,every one of them mentioned how little pain they had and how easy the recovery was,much better than they expected.
When one has that surgery they are forced to eat very small portions and they all lost significant amounts of weight.
Hopefully they learn new eating patterns and keep the weight off so it’s just a “bridge”,so to speak.
Problem is 5 of the 6 I know were back to their pre-op weight after 2-3 years.1 of them maintained their weight loss long term so it can be done.
It’s a very safe surgery if done by a competent surgeon.You guys act like I’m talking about gastric bypass surgery,that’s a whole other thing with some potentially serious side effects.I don’t think those are even being done anymore.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:40 pm to LSUA 75
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Well,I know 6 people that had laparoscopic gastric sleeve surgery
Do you manage a Golden Corral or something? How does any one person know 6 other people that had gastric sleeves? Or maybe you are a doctor that performs this procedure and is here to tout its merits? Whats the deal?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:02 pm to ronricks
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:10 am to lsu777
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All I’m gonna say is your moralistic view you like to cast over everything is tiresome. I promise you are not perfect but you like to act like you are and anyone that does it a different way is wrong and immoral
I’ve mentioned nothing about ‘morals’ or ‘cheating’ etc you guys keep trying to apply that to me for some bizarre reason. I’ve mentioned Big Pharma which you guys don’t seem to want to talk about probably because it’s impossible to white knight for them because they are so destructive and corrupt. I do not care if someone uses these drugs it has NOTHING to do with moralism. For most people who are in this position because they are lazy it will not turn out well for them. Read this thread. You have people bragging that they can’t and won’t make lifestyle changes but are willing to rely on these drugs as a ‘fix’
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Overall since glp-1s have become popular, you have become a complete and insufferable douche bag anytime they are brought up and derail every fricking thread that mentions them with your elementary understanding of things
Sorry you feel that way. Look at the actual words being posted in this thread by the people using them. It’s not sustainable because they have no actual interest in actually changing their lifestyle they want a magic potion. Will it work out in the end for a few people with that thinking? Maybe. But vast majority are going to crash and burn the second the magic potion is gone.
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If you don’t want to use them, cool, but you don’t have to derail every thread of people just looking for fricking help
These people are looking for a quick fix and the easy way out. You should know it simply doesn’t work that way when it comes to fitness/diet/health etc. If you are this upset this will be my last post on topic.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:23 am to Old Swole
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noone was addressing you
Hmm, do you know how message boards work, fricktard? Moreover, “no one” is two words. Finally, go frick yourself, shite for brains.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:18 am to Mo Jeaux
It never ceases to amaze me how worked up and crazy people get about these drugs and people trying to get healthy. It’s fricking weird Jeez…. you wanna take them? Cool, treat yo self. You don’t want to take them, don’t agree with them? Also cool. But shut the frick up and let people try for themselves. Especially if you’re complete uneducated on them.
This isn’t directed at your MO, just a general statement. It’s just getting old. People are on here trying to get advice and every thread gets polluted by douche bags. I follow a couple groups and the results people are getting is absolutely incredible.
Yes I know. frick fattys. Eat less and don’t be lazy.
Jeez…. you wanna take them? Cool, treat yo self. You don’t want to take them, don’t agree with them? Also cool. But shut the frick up and let people try for themselves. Especially if you’re complete uneducated on them. This isn’t directed at your MO, just a general statement. It’s just getting old. People are on here trying to get advice and every thread gets polluted by douche bags. I follow a couple groups and the results people are getting is absolutely incredible.
Yes I know. frick fattys. Eat less and don’t be lazy.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:02 am to Old Swole
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How does any one person know 6 other people that had gastric sleeves?
I worked in a hospital,you wouldn’t believe how many obese people work in hospitals.
We had 4 nurses in ICU that were absolute blimps,they all had the surgery but only one kept the weight off after 2-3 years.
We had dietitian that was severely obese,not a good look for sure.She would come around to counsel pts.on their diet,I would just shake my head.
There was another nurse that was normal weight,she had a lap band that I didn’t know about,she had it several years.So it worked for her until it eroded a hole in her stomach and she almost died.
Then there is a guy at my church that looked like he had an inner tube around his waist,huge belly.
He had the surgery,lost a lot of weight and looked pretty good.2-3 years later he gained it all back.
So as far s your snarky comment,I didn’t work at Golden Corral nor am I Dr. pimping the surgery.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:58 am to Uncle JackD
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It’s just getting old. People are on here trying to get advice and every thread gets polluted by douche bags. I follow a couple groups and the results people are getting is absolutely incredible.
I see I am late to this argument.
What are we arguing about?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:59 am to ronricks
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You have people bragging that they can’t and won’t make lifestyle changes but are willing to rely on these drugs as a ‘fix’
You talking about me? Because I never said this. I'm really good at loosing weight. I'm pretty good at walking and working out while I'm doing that. I've done Crossfit for a few years (I hate lifting). I've run a marathon and many half marathons. I am not lazy. I'm not always consistent, but not lazy. The thing is that for me, loosing weight is actually not that hard. I just don't know how to eat to stay at my goal. I could probably do fine at becoming anorexic and continuing to lose.
All I want is a little help once I get to goal while I learn how to maintain. But evidently that is not easy for someone who is obviously perfect in the food, weight, and workout department.
Additionally, if 2 out of 10 people manage to lose and stay at their goal because of this medication, why is that a problem for you? You're just big mad a big pharma and let that cloud any good that comes from this. Those 2 people would be better off than before.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:04 am to LSUA 75
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I worked in a hospital,you wouldn’t believe how many obese people work in hospitals
Same. I know 2 nurses, 2 folks in dietary, 3 that were in marketing. I also know one that was a parent of a kid that did gymnastics with my daughter, and another that worked in admissions who had it done years ago.
Of all these, half struggle, but aren't nearly as obese as they were and the other half are doing very well. All but one had this surgery at least 5-6 years ago.
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