re: On Mounjaro for two months, my take ****New Update pg 11 w photo****

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As I said,I would do the gastric sleeve surgery before I would take it.The listed potential side effects turn me off.

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putting LSUA_75 on the list of guys to never take advice from

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As I said,I would do the gastric sleeve surgery before I would take it.

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Is what I posted rocket science? Too hard? God forbid one of these fatties have to sweat a little bit and step foot in an actual gym

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While I mostly agree with what you posted, it's not as easy as you put it.

Sincere question, do you have kids? If so, are they still in school?

I ask that because (to me) your sleep and food comments are asinine. 8hrs sleep at night is a pipedream. I MAY get that on a Sarurday or Sunday night, but avg is 6.5 hrs. As for food, breakfast and lunch I eat on my own. So for those meals (and basically anything pre-dinner), I can dictate how healthy it is for myself. Dinner with kids is another story. Unless I'm going to start cooking 2 meals a night, I make dinner as healthy as I can get it with them still willing to eat it.

I let myself turn into one of your 'fatties'. I've worked my arse off the last 2+ years to reverse that. Dropped 60# with diet, excercise, and lifestyle changes. I lift 4-6 days/wk, cardio 2-3 days/wk, and average 12k steps a day. Cut out fast-food/eating out as much as possible, don't recall the last time I had alcohol, and deleted unnecessary, time consuming games/apps from my phone.

I still have probably 40# left to lose and plateaued for 5-6 months. I choose to start this med last week to jump start my weight-loss again. I did this after talking with my MD, researching it myself, and conversing with other people who've been using it. I set out trying to do this 100% without any aids. There were several ups and downs. With a 5 month plateau, I decided to accept the help the meds would give.

Not everyone is using this as a luxury to just eat whatever the hell they want. I'm sure I'm in the minority of users by actually trying to better myself and putting in the work.

It's frustrating having people like you talk down to people who are trying to better themselves. All you seem to be doing is lumping everyone together and applying generalized statements to them.

Hypothetical for you ron

let's assume that we are talking about an obese person that is medically incapable of starting a workout routine (due to physical limitations) and that this person MUST lose weight to improve quality and longevity of life:

Do you recommend:
1) gastric sleeve
2) just eat better and go to the gym even though you are physically incapable of doing so
3) GLP-1

Are you still standing strong in your conviction that this person should avoid GLP-1's ? (I bet you are)

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I understand insurances are starting to deny it for non-diabetics, because so many people are wanting on it.
I pay $22 a month for 4 shots. My wife paid $120 a shot because insurance wouldn’t cover it.

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That $22 a month is quite impressive. But you are diabetic, so it makes sense. I just started it last week and am going the compounding pharmacy route as have many folks I know. I'm paying $300 per month and when my dose goes up to .5, it will be $350. Generally, the folks I know doing it for weight loss stay at the lower dosage until their weight loss slows down.

I'm pretty excited about it and I can truly understand how much it helps already. That "food noise" is just straight up gone. Like many people, I was slim when I was young. Size 4-6 even after 2 kids. Hit 35, changed jobs into an exciting (for me), but stressful one and worked a lot of yours. Changed my lifestyle along with it. No longer pulling my 3 year old around the neighborhood in the wagon, playing games outside, etc. At that point, looking back, I realize that food became my most fun part of the day and I thought about it a lot...what was for lunch (we went out a lot at work) or dinner before I worked for 2 more hours before bed. I already am not thinking about and seriously planning my next meal, about the candy jar at the admin desk outside my office, or about the crappy grocery store cupcakes that were in the cafeteria for birthdays that day. I'm not wanting an extra helping of dessert later.

I can see how this is a game changer and in my first week, no real side effects, but I am making sure to drink lots of water and am taking a probiotic fiber drink every morning when I wake up while getting ready. I'm planning on trying to go to the gym twice a week to do some weight machines. I am not very strong and hate this part, so twice a week is pretty good and I'll start walking 3 times a week, which I was doing, but not regularly.

I have about 80 pounds to lose. I'm hoping to get it done by February or March next year. I'm a 62 year old lady, btw. I have lost the weight 3 times over the last 25 years but for various reasons, I gained it back. I even ran a marathon 8 years ago. But it was about 10 pounds a year ago. I've been following all these threads for a while and hope this will help me.

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Odysseus32

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It took a mounjaro thread to pull you out of your self imposed exile after deleting pages of your posts?

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I wouldn’t take any new meds that come out for at least 5 years.

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Been used to treat diabetes for 10 years or so, I think. Similar medications have been studied for around 20, although I could be wrong.

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I also remember Bextra,Celebrex and Vioxx.It worked well for some people but caused heart attacks and death in some.

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I know several orthopedic docs who were against taking that medicine off the market. It did have side effects when used long tern for things like arthritis, but they felt it was still a good drug for treating things that were short term injuries.

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I've done exactly that with diet and exercise 3 different times in the last 25 years. Long term, that didn't end well for me as each time I gained back more than my previous loss. If you believe it's all totally about willpower and determination, you are totally wrong and have never been there. As I both lost and gained weight, I was obsessed with food. What were we having for dinner? We were going out and what would I order? Would their be dessert? Everything you can imagine. I actually remember when I was much younger, skinny, and didn't have those constant thoughts. They came with stress and a big change in my lifestyle. With semaglutide, those obsessions have pretty much disappeared and I feel like I used to about food. It's a sudden and amazing freedom to not need this massive willpower to stop when you are full and there is food left on your plate or not needing that massive willpower to keep from getting a 2nd piece of cake that you know you don't need and will be sorry you ate. If you haven't felt like that, like that cake is literally calling you, then you don't understand the need for this drug.

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This reads like one big ad for NOT taking these drugs. Big Pharma has hooked another one. Congrats.

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ronricks will say this is a bad thing and that your Mom is just lazy and needs to get in the gym ASAP.

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No Ron wouldn’t say that because Ron knows it’s mostly diet and lifestyle not just going to the gym. You can’t out train a bad diet. Her mom likely is lazy with little to no discipline that’s how she got obese in the first place

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Tell your mother to stop the Zepbound and join Crunch fitness.

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Won’t work without massive diet and lifestyle changes.

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Stop the lunacy. She is cheating the system and using shortcuts.

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Never have mentioned cheating or shortcuts. I have mentioned Big Pharma being a scourge of American society. Read this thread. It’s full of lazy people who want to take drugs and lose weight laying around the house. Let’s just cut to the chase. These people don’t want to put any effort in. They don’t want any discipline they want to rely on drugs. They don’t want to do anything other than to rely on drugs. It’s all right here in black and white. It’s not sustainable long term.