re: On Mounjaro for two months, my take - 7 month update

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perpetual disease

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Honestly, when is the last time you weighed 210-220? I'm gonna guess 7th or 8th grade? Your progress is awesome! Keep it up, gotta stay healthy for them kids!

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its funny....people will bash the medicine but people that are doing it right are seeing physiques they havent seen since early HS days.

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No they don't

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have you been around here? they absolutely do saying its going to have big time side effects down the rode, no free rides, "have fun shitting yourself" and all kinds of other dumb shite

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People bash dependance on big pharma

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you are not dependent on big pharma just because you take this medicine. but if one has naturally low GLP-1 levels, why would you not stay on a low dose?

would you get off blood pressure medicine if it helped you lower your BP? if you had low test levels, would you get off TRT?

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People bash increased healthcare costs and utilization subsidized by the healthy

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for most people the lifetime cost of using the medicine is going to be way way cheaper than being morbidly obese when it comes to how much insurance pays out.

and many on this board are getting the medicine outside of their doctor and just using doctor to monitor because its so expensive even with insurance.

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Peoples bash fudging coding and documentation in clinical notes for coverage

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i have never seen this mentioned as part of bashing on here ever

either just making stuff up or havent been around much

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for most people the lifetime cost of using the medicine is going to be way way cheaper than being morbidly obese when it comes to how much insurance pays out.

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Whatever moron you're regurgitating this from is 100% wrong and every actuary in the industry would tell you the same thing but hey...you read it once on the internet so it must be true right?

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Are you basing your entire pubic perception by what you read on TigerDroppings??

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i wasnt talking about public perception i was talking TD but even public perception is the same way and based almost solely on assigning moralistic veiwpoints to losing weight.

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Do you know how many other methods there are to increase GLP-1 secretion?

The insinuation that gut health dependent on big pharma could not be achieved through other methods isn't just wrong, it's costly and irresponsible

But hey, that's 'Merica

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of course there are....do you know there are ways to increase testosterone naturally too but for those with chronic low test...those do not work? same with glp-1

if you want to get into the science behind it, i can next week, dont have time today. but suffice to say you are wrong

your whole viewpoint on this is wrong and dumb

Just ignore LSUfan4444, he went to the Ronricks school of diplomacy and tact. Then got a graduate degree at the SlowFoPro school of arrogance.

It's not diplomatic to have the unhealthy's lifestyle choices be overly dependent on big pharma at the cost of millions of americans.

It's not tactful to pretend that the costs of diabetic medications for weight loss is not having harmful affects on healthcare costs in this country.

It's not arrogant to call BS when people claim that these medications are actually reducing healthcare costs or will in the future.

Ignore it if you want but it doesnt make it untrue.

People need to separate fact from feeling and the facts are there.

Big pharma is an enormous threat to improving the overall health of this country. Many chronic conditions can be and are successfully managed medicinally. The feeling that treating weight loss medicinally will actuarially improve healthcare costs isn't backed by science and has similarly already proven to be an incorrect assumption with bariatric procedures. The problem isn't with the use, it's with the abuse and overuse.

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Please provide science showing how those on Monjaro have lower acute admit rates, lower ER visits and lower obs stays.

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Cmon man Do you really need data showing you this? If someone goes from a BMI of 45 to 18, it’s clear as day their chance of having comorbidities will plummet. There’s literally nothing more detrimental to the human body than obesity.

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can tell you with absolute certainty that lowering the BMI is not a magic bullet.

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Please explain this because it literally is a magic bullet 99/100 times. Everyone I know who is using these medications properly has taken themselves off of most, it not all prescription drugs, That were related to being overweight.

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It's a unicorn being sold by big pharma costing americans billions.

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Right. And how much is obesity costing America? I work in nephrology/dialysis and 90% of our patients are on Medicaid. A lot of these people wouldn’t be where they are today if they had GLPs back then.