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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 7/26/18 at 6:57 am to McLemore
Posted on 7/26/18 at 6:57 am to McLemore
All my previous events I trained hard almost every run
This training so far I’ve been taking it very easy. Enjoying it so far, haven’t been asking myself why I’m doing this yet
This training so far I’ve been taking it very easy. Enjoying it so far, haven’t been asking myself why I’m doing this yet
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 7:46 am to hogbody
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Enjoying it so far, haven’t been asking myself why I’m doing this yet
this will hit me when I'm having to wake up at 4 am to run 8 miles before work and its like 30 degrees
Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:01 am to Salmon
What kind of training plan y’all using? Time base, mileage base, HR?
Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:32 am to Salmon
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Oh and 4 am alarms suck balls.
I'm trying to get myself to do this, but being up past 10 PM is not helping. Need to make some more changes to make weekday morning runs the norm.
quote:
What kind of training plan y’all using? Time base, mileage base, HR?
I go by miles. A lot of arguments could be made for any of those options though.
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:45 am to lsucm10
Also mileage
Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:47 am to tke_swamprat
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What kind of training plan y’all using? Time base, mileage base, HR?
mileage and HR
only people that I know that do time based training are ultra runners
Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:31 am to Salmon
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4 am alarms suck balls.
My favorite time of day. 4am-6am.
hillwork(parking garage) today.
2 mile easy
10x
45 sec sprint up incline/easy back down
2 mile easy
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:22 pm to Cdawg
Pretty good start to the day today. Hit 10 miles before it got too hot outside. I wasn't concerned with pace at all, just trying to get distance and time on my feet and monitor HR.
I think I am underestimating the heat/dewpoint factor on performance. When running mid day (when most of my runs have been) usually by mile 3-4 I am struggling, HR through the roof, etc. I was beginning to get pretty frustrated at times. Today was different. The cooler air felt good, dew point was low(er) and the 10 miles were actually pleasant without any heavy breathing. Followed up by 20 mins of Yoga/stretching and now gonna go hit the weights. G'Day!
I think I am underestimating the heat/dewpoint factor on performance. When running mid day (when most of my runs have been) usually by mile 3-4 I am struggling, HR through the roof, etc. I was beginning to get pretty frustrated at times. Today was different. The cooler air felt good, dew point was low(er) and the 10 miles were actually pleasant without any heavy breathing. Followed up by 20 mins of Yoga/stretching and now gonna go hit the weights. G'Day!
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/26/18 at 2:06 pm to Salmon
I followed time when training for triathlons since you get so much crossover training benefit, it wasn't always necessary to hit particular distance goals. Everything was geared towards your body getting used to going for that long more than the particular distance. Granted the time prescribed for a workout is based on your projected time to finish a certain distance race, so it's all pretty much the same.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 3:34 pm to tke_swamprat
I set my HR zones last year and followed a 3 month half marathon training program my brother made up from various sources. Since then I watch HR on watch and try to keep it within range for what I'm doing (long/slow aerobic runs; interval/fartleks, etc), but I'm pretty loose right now.
I'm going to plug into a real program in a couple weeks, for a full Mar.
I'm going to plug into a real program in a couple weeks, for a full Mar.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 7:31 am to McLemore
Going to do one of my favorite leg destroying workouts this evening:
8 rounds
400 m sprint
50 air squats
8 rounds
400 m sprint
50 air squats
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/27/18 at 7:54 am to Salmon
50 air squats. That’s where you get the gains imo.
This morning
1hr core work.
I’ve been neglecting this and I’ll be feeling this for a few days.
This morning
1hr core work.
I’ve been neglecting this and I’ll be feeling this for a few days.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 8:45 am to Cdawg
3 mile run that turned into 2.5 miles last night. 101 degrees according to my truck and the fact that I'm eating less than 20 carbs per day was pretty brutal. Maybe could have finished the 3, but hands were tingly, Haha. Was only like a 9:45 pace too that eventually slowed to 10+. HR was over 200 at points and averaged 185. I'm completely off the wagon right now and Keto isn't helping.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 9:29 am to KG6
I did some inadvertent carb loading yesterday evening. I had a stressful couple of days w work, and I just self-medicated w food! I don't do that often, so I don't give a shite:
Half a pint of "low-carb" cookie-dough ice cream (Enlightened brand--it's decent and worth it if on sale), a Dale's Pale Ale and a Bell's Two Hearted (supposedly low carb), full fat Fage yogurt, a peach, macadamia nuts, and 90% cacao chocolate. That's more carbs than I normally have in a day for sure.
Did a decent, fairly hot 5-miler through Emory just now. No PRs or segments on this one for sure. I felt like I should have been able to run faster but just couldn't push this am.
Nice route--not crazy hilly but almost 300ft gain. Through campus to intramural fields. There are a few good spots for intervals. Pretty shady and no cars. Tried to keep HR in the 145-155 zone. Failed. 157 ave BPM.
eta: i just decided to do the Midtown 5K tomorrow am. I'm going to run there and back, to make it a half marathon. the course is flat (100' total gain), so hopefully I can keep it under 24. I'll run the 4.25 there slow.
ETA: change o plan. Gonna run Kennesaw Mtn to try to get ready for this uphill 15k
Half a pint of "low-carb" cookie-dough ice cream (Enlightened brand--it's decent and worth it if on sale), a Dale's Pale Ale and a Bell's Two Hearted (supposedly low carb), full fat Fage yogurt, a peach, macadamia nuts, and 90% cacao chocolate. That's more carbs than I normally have in a day for sure.
Did a decent, fairly hot 5-miler through Emory just now. No PRs or segments on this one for sure. I felt like I should have been able to run faster but just couldn't push this am.
Nice route--not crazy hilly but almost 300ft gain. Through campus to intramural fields. There are a few good spots for intervals. Pretty shady and no cars. Tried to keep HR in the 145-155 zone. Failed. 157 ave BPM.
eta: i just decided to do the Midtown 5K tomorrow am. I'm going to run there and back, to make it a half marathon. the course is flat (100' total gain), so hopefully I can keep it under 24. I'll run the 4.25 there slow.
ETA: change o plan. Gonna run Kennesaw Mtn to try to get ready for this uphill 15k
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:04 am to McLemore
Shoulder workout and a 1000 yr swim yesterday.....torture when I haven't swam in 2 months and shoulders are already wiped out.
2.7 mile run this morning. Actually bonked, Haha. HR dropped 30 BPM. Hadn't had that happen in a long time. For those low carb runners, I've heard taking carbs immediately before a run when you know you'll burn them will not kick you out of keto. Any experience. I'm not in shape, but I should be able to stumble through a 10k right now. I'm literally getting light headed before 3. I have such a high HR plus the heat, it's nearly impossible to slow down enough to run on purely body fat right now. I can typically do my easy runs at 150 and I have a hard/impossible time staying below 190.
2.7 mile run this morning. Actually bonked, Haha. HR dropped 30 BPM. Hadn't had that happen in a long time. For those low carb runners, I've heard taking carbs immediately before a run when you know you'll burn them will not kick you out of keto. Any experience. I'm not in shape, but I should be able to stumble through a 10k right now. I'm literally getting light headed before 3. I have such a high HR plus the heat, it's nearly impossible to slow down enough to run on purely body fat right now. I can typically do my easy runs at 150 and I have a hard/impossible time staying below 190.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:18 am to TigeRoots
Got out this am and ran a fasted 5K around my neighborhood. We went out to eat last night, so splurged on the diet, had a few drinks, etc. I didn't feel the need to eat this am, so just had a black coffee and headed out to beat the heat. Followed up with 20 mins of post run Yoga.
Decided to work on my pace a little and felt pretty good. I thought my avg pace would be quicker, as every time I checked my Polar I was between 8:20-8:40. However, there are multiple dead ends that I have to turn around in and they slow me down.
Feel pretty good about where I'm at, this gives me 25 miles on the week. The longest week on the Hal Higdon program (which I start 8/6) is 23 miles. Not to mention getting some miles in in the middle of Summer. Weather should only get better closer to race season.
Decided to work on my pace a little and felt pretty good. I thought my avg pace would be quicker, as every time I checked my Polar I was between 8:20-8:40. However, there are multiple dead ends that I have to turn around in and they slow me down.
Feel pretty good about where I'm at, this gives me 25 miles on the week. The longest week on the Hal Higdon program (which I start 8/6) is 23 miles. Not to mention getting some miles in in the middle of Summer. Weather should only get better closer to race season.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:47 am to TigeRoots
Knocked out a 9 mile run this morning. Slow pace.
OP - switch me to the Rocket City Marathon in Huntsville December 8th. Much more realistic goal.
OP - switch me to the Rocket City Marathon in Huntsville December 8th. Much more realistic goal.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:30 am to KG6
rest day for me but I'll put around on my fixed gear for about an hour today.
I don't use a HR monitor but 190 sounds insane. this heat/humidity makes it very hard to run close to your average. My 2 mile easy the other day was actually not easy for my regular "easy" pace.
Before you go run 3 miles do you do any type of warm-up? That should kick in where you start to burn the fat for fuel. For instance, do 20 side-to-side skips to your left then 20 back. 10 push-ups. Repeat 5x. 20 lunges, and then lightly slow jog 1 minute. rest at least 3 minutes. this gets your heart going but stay aerobic. I know for me going out immediately for a run without at least a slow mile puts me immediately in anaerobic and I'm not settling in for normal feeling/breathing for 20 or so minutes wich is close to your 2.7 miles.
also note, I'm been experimenting with the keto thing the last two weeks just for the hell of it. I've been struggling more than normal too and adding in the heat, it's different.
I don't use a HR monitor but 190 sounds insane. this heat/humidity makes it very hard to run close to your average. My 2 mile easy the other day was actually not easy for my regular "easy" pace.
Before you go run 3 miles do you do any type of warm-up? That should kick in where you start to burn the fat for fuel. For instance, do 20 side-to-side skips to your left then 20 back. 10 push-ups. Repeat 5x. 20 lunges, and then lightly slow jog 1 minute. rest at least 3 minutes. this gets your heart going but stay aerobic. I know for me going out immediately for a run without at least a slow mile puts me immediately in anaerobic and I'm not settling in for normal feeling/breathing for 20 or so minutes wich is close to your 2.7 miles.
also note, I'm been experimenting with the keto thing the last two weeks just for the hell of it. I've been struggling more than normal too and adding in the heat, it's different.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:17 am to KG6
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For those low carb runners, I've heard taking carbs immediately before a run when you know you'll burn them will not kick you out of keto.
I have tested this theory and it holds true. I carb loaded again last night: Mexican (excess chips, jumbo Modelo and all). I'll test my ketones later today out or curiosity.
Today's results:
160 bpm ave. A little high but hard to keep it down w that gain.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:36 am to Cdawg
I always have a high HR. Easy is typically 150s. 5k race effort is in the 190s. Might break 200 when it's really hot. But this was an easy pace run. It's hot, so 170 is feasible. But I'm just all over the place. Theres no doubt I'm out of shape. Haven't been on a regular training plan in 2 months.
It was crazy to see the HR drop though. I've bonked before, but not with a HR monitor. I've read it will crash and that's exactly what it did. Then when I started walking, it shot back up again after a few minutes. All corresponding with that nasty feeling coming and going.
It was crazy to see the HR drop though. I've bonked before, but not with a HR monitor. I've read it will crash and that's exactly what it did. Then when I started walking, it shot back up again after a few minutes. All corresponding with that nasty feeling coming and going.
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