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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:04 am to
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:04 am to
Great advice as I'm about to hit 32, my right knee doesn't like me or the miles anymore. I've come to listen to it and cut back at times. I hate it
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:16 am to
Well I killed myself this morning

5 miles/ 6:47 pace
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:36 am to
Coming back from an injury after 30 years of age, even a minor one, is hard as frick. The challenge can be more in the head than the legs. When you have long periods of recovery, you start to settle into a routine with work and kids which can be hard to break out of. If you stay healthy and continue to run, the schedule remains constant and your family can build their schedules around it.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28877 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:02 am to
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Coming back from an injury after 30 years of age, even a minor one, is hard as frick. The challenge can be more in the head than the legs. When you have long periods of recovery, you start to settle into a routine with work and kids which can be hard to break out of. If you stay healthy and continue to run, the schedule remains constant and your family can build their schedules around it.



just hit 35 yesterday. i've been fortunate to not have any major injuries except some tight achilles on occasion. only lingering thing i've dealt with since being serious about running the last 2 years.

i'm waiting for the other shoe to drop though. i have a tight IT band, ham string, or calf every now and then, but i know the day is coming that something breaks.
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 9:04 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:25 pm to
5 miles at 7:35 pace in the rain.

What a fun run.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:03 pm to
Treadmill workout. 12 x 1min 10.5 -11.5 mph finish one on one off 1 degree incline. 7 miles total 2 warmup 1.25 cool.
Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
3871 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 8:15 am to
6.75 @ 8:40 this morning. Still feeling my race from the weekend.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 8:23 am to
Today is a speed day. I've been running 6x800 with a 2 min rest between. Any of you guys have a go to speed workout you care to pass one?
Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
3871 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 8:44 am to
My favorite (or least favorite while I'm doing it) is a time pyramid:
1 mins fast/1 minute rest
2 min fast/1 min rest
3 min fast/1 min rest
4 min fast/1 min rest
3...
2...
1...
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 8:45 am
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:18 am to
Wednesday’s have been tough for me. It’s the only day of the week where I ran the previous day so maybe that’s part of it.

Got 10 miles at 8:01 pace.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:20 am to
I like that method. Enough to give it a try. That said, those 1 min rest might be more like 1.5 or 2 min.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:49 am to
The dirty dozen is a similar type of workout and is a vO2 max type of workout.

2 mi warm up.

10 second sprint 10 jog all the way up to 60 seconds and back to 10

Cool down.

You’ll hate life the entire time you do it if you do it right.

ETA You do the 60 twice back to back then back down to 10 since I wasn’t clear.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 9:55 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18379 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:56 am to
Restrung my shoes for better ankle support last night. Got in an easy 4 miles this morning that for some reason felt tough. Sucks that taking three days of rest can knock me out of rhythm so easily.

So far so good on the plantar fasciitis.

Quick question - I was supposed to get in 37 miles total this week but missed my Monday and Tuesday runs. Did 4 miles this morning and will try to do 8 tomorrow. Rest Friday.

Should I still try to tackle 18 on Saturday? Or should I knock it down so the majority of my miles this week don’t come from one run?
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:07 am to
Yeah that's a lot for my watch to handle. Maybe I can get the wife out there with a timer.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:12 am to
Best way to get a speed session in without having to resort to the treadmill or track is fartleks. Run like a striped assed ape for a minute then jog for a minute; repeat. You can do that anywhere, anytime.

@ Hog You on Strava?
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:17 am to
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Should I still try to tackle 18 on Saturday? Or should I knock it down so the majority of my miles this week don’t come from one run?


Are you asking as it relates to your planter fasciitis? Is so, I try to avoid all particularly long runs when I have an injury. Mostly due to the fact that they all seem to flare up after 3-5 miles. I'm no doctor, nor have I ever suffered from PF, so you can ignore everything I just said.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18379 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:28 am to
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Are you asking as it relates to your planter fasciitis?


Not really. I can regulate my running based on how the injury is doing. It honestly never got to the point of being a real painful injury - just a nagging feeling that I felt could become an injury. This morning was fine and if I can do 8 tomorrow without having to cut it short, I think I’ll be fine with pushing onward.

But I’ve read numerous places that it’s bad to get the majority of your weekly training miles from one long run. Some plans say your longest run should only be 20-30% of your weekly total. Granted, that’s for an entire training plan and not just an isolated week like I’m experiencing.

I’m wondering if there’s any harm or detriment in having a training week where ~70% of my miles come from one run.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:29 am
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:35 am to
3 miles yesterday @ 8:33

5 miles this morning SLOW, aerobic pace @ 10:08. This is probably the first official “easy” run I’ve done this training block based on online graphs, calculators, etc. pertaining to aerobic thresh hold. I set my watch to alarm at 155 bpm, which is my aerobic/lactate thresh hold. When I would hit that I would slow it up to get back into range. Extremely hard for me to go at this slower pace.

Weather wise, we’re getting close but still 86 feels like this am.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:15 am to
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Some plans say your longest run should only be 20-30%


Most weeks I can only schedule three running days due to my wife and children's' schedules. On those weeks, my long run accounts for as much as 50% of my weekly mileage. I haven't seen any side effects to date, but everyone's body is structured differently.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:57 am to
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@ Hog You on Strava?


I have the app, but my old arse Garmin doesn’t link up to my phone so I’ve never used it

I have an Apple Watch also, but have found the GPS to be less accurate
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