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observations after 20 month barbell layoff
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:22 am
so most of you know...i have been without my home gym since march of 2020 when i sold my house and started a new build. I finally got new gym built this month.
in the mean time i had kettlebells (pairs @ 26,36,53,70) and rings to do work. I wasnt as consistant without the home gym and prolly should have made more progress, but a couple things i noticed
- after on and off 2+ decades of lifting....i was able to maintain most of my barbell strength just using the lighter weight
- i was less successful maintaining most of the muscle i had built. I think this hardly had anything to do with not having the home gym though and much more to do with overall consistency and total volume. So more my fault.
- squats feel easy on my legs, but my traps and middle back were not ready at all lol.
- deadlifts seem to be the one lift where i did not maintain as much strength. I think this is mostly from the lack of patterning the hip hinge other than some KB SLDL and kb swings. I expect this will prolly be the lift i make the most progress in
- now that the home gym is set back up....i feel a little overloaded with option
- strength endurance seems where i kept the most. i.e. rep records
- squating...i need to work on shoulder mobility more. going to be a big focus in my warm up
- lessons learned from the layoff
-weighted ring pushups are the bomb
-thick handled chins will light you up
-KOT split squats will help you maintain tons of squat strength
-specialty bars like the neutral grip bars, the safety squat bar are your joints friends. also the bamboo bar or rings are great for the joints when adding volume due to the instability.
-overall.....mike boyle is right in that we need to focus more on unilateral training fo the lower body, both for performance and in every day life.
anyways thought i would point a couple things out. plan is to hit the GSLP until squatober and then figure out from there. WIll decide between cycles of madcow, 531, defranco programming or ppsa.
leaning to 9 months of gslp --> squatober, brovember, deadcember--> 2-3 cycles of madcow--> 531 for a year--->a year of defranco--->ppsa for life :lol: :lol:
for those that missed my pics of new gym, see below

in the mean time i had kettlebells (pairs @ 26,36,53,70) and rings to do work. I wasnt as consistant without the home gym and prolly should have made more progress, but a couple things i noticed
- after on and off 2+ decades of lifting....i was able to maintain most of my barbell strength just using the lighter weight
- i was less successful maintaining most of the muscle i had built. I think this hardly had anything to do with not having the home gym though and much more to do with overall consistency and total volume. So more my fault.
- squats feel easy on my legs, but my traps and middle back were not ready at all lol.
- deadlifts seem to be the one lift where i did not maintain as much strength. I think this is mostly from the lack of patterning the hip hinge other than some KB SLDL and kb swings. I expect this will prolly be the lift i make the most progress in
- now that the home gym is set back up....i feel a little overloaded with option
- strength endurance seems where i kept the most. i.e. rep records
- squating...i need to work on shoulder mobility more. going to be a big focus in my warm up
- lessons learned from the layoff
-weighted ring pushups are the bomb
-thick handled chins will light you up
-KOT split squats will help you maintain tons of squat strength
-specialty bars like the neutral grip bars, the safety squat bar are your joints friends. also the bamboo bar or rings are great for the joints when adding volume due to the instability.
-overall.....mike boyle is right in that we need to focus more on unilateral training fo the lower body, both for performance and in every day life.
anyways thought i would point a couple things out. plan is to hit the GSLP until squatober and then figure out from there. WIll decide between cycles of madcow, 531, defranco programming or ppsa.
leaning to 9 months of gslp --> squatober, brovember, deadcember--> 2-3 cycles of madcow--> 531 for a year--->a year of defranco--->ppsa for life :lol: :lol:
for those that missed my pics of new gym, see below

Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:46 am to lsu777
Nice "My Porte Cochere garage is my gym" brag!
What are you going to do for cooling in the summer time? Just a fan?
I'm jelly.
What are you going to do for cooling in the summer time? Just a fan?
I'm jelly.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:49 am to lsu777
I didn't have as long of a layoff as you, but during Covid I started running 25 or 30 miles a week because the gyms were closed, and I generally found your points to be true as well after about 90 days off.
I was a little bit weaker with the barbell, but I felt like I was back to pretty much full capacity in a couple of weeks and I wasn't even doing the amount of calisthenics you were. I was doing some pushups and had a couple of sets of dumbells, but it was pretty bare and I was focusing on the running.
I was a little bit weaker with the barbell, but I felt like I was back to pretty much full capacity in a couple of weeks and I wasn't even doing the amount of calisthenics you were. I was doing some pushups and had a couple of sets of dumbells, but it was pretty bare and I was focusing on the running.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:51 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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Nice "My Porte Cochere garage is my gym" brag!
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What are you going to do for cooling in the summer time? Just a fan?
plan is to put the blower fans in the corners. my old garage did not have that though and i was fine but that one was insulated, this is not. but yea gonna need to have air moving somehow and Im not doing ac...atleast not right now.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:53 am to Big Ole Baw
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I was a little bit weaker with the barbell, but I felt like I was back to pretty much full capacity in a couple of weeks
yea im not at full capacity, and the barbell 100% feels heavier, but its mainly on my joints it feels heavy, not during the lift itself.
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I was doing some pushups and had a couple of sets of dumbells, but it was pretty bare and I was focusing on the running.
i didnt run much, mainly did carries for conditioning and then rode my bmx bike with my kids for fun.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:04 am to lsu777
Your crypto pad is awesome. I wanna be you when I grow up
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:14 am to 44tiger
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Your crypto pad is awesome. I wanna be you when I grow up
thanks...crypto hasnt been as kind lately
Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:47 pm to lsu777
Nice gym baw; mine looks like a basement rape dungeon by comparison.
How the frick can you run LP for this long at your experience level? Rotating lifts?
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9 months of gslp
How the frick can you run LP for this long at your experience level? Rotating lifts?
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:04 pm to Boring
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How the frick can you run LP for this long at your experience level? Rotating lifts?
start low, keep the reps high, when i reset i add volume. also doing small jumps.
planned it out...overall this prolly only going to get me back to where my peak was.
but honestly the lp can be run for years if you rotate the lifts, take planned deloads, increase volume as needed etc.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:41 pm to lsu777
I did bodyweight/sandbag/weighted backpack/rings for a couple of years before getting back into weights. I regained my strength pretty quickly, but I found out that there's no substitute for pushing iron when it comes to building size. I have much more mass and definition now than before, and I'm not working any harder, in fact, my volume is a bit less. I see those guys who get jacked doing bodyweight only, ie convict conditioning, etc. Obviously they're doing something right but it didn't work that way for me.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 5:46 pm to lsu777
I’ll be looking for that garage
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:58 pm to lsu777
Posts like this are why I keep coming back to the H/F board.
After a few training breaks due to medical reasons (inguinal hernia surgery then testicular cancer), the strength came back a lot quicker than the cardio / fitness level.
I started running with my girlfriend's running friend post-COVID after gyms closed so returning to training wasn't as awful as it could've been when gyms opened.
I started CrossFit over 7 years ago now, so that is what I refer to in "training" above.
Slowly starting to develop garage gym as well with 7 different barbell options, all of the needed bumpers, stand, dumbbells; and 23, 44, 53, 70 lb kbs; plyo boxes, medium and large sandbags from Rep, flat and incline benches, and will eventually post pic.
After a few training breaks due to medical reasons (inguinal hernia surgery then testicular cancer), the strength came back a lot quicker than the cardio / fitness level.
I started running with my girlfriend's running friend post-COVID after gyms closed so returning to training wasn't as awful as it could've been when gyms opened.
I started CrossFit over 7 years ago now, so that is what I refer to in "training" above.
Slowly starting to develop garage gym as well with 7 different barbell options, all of the needed bumpers, stand, dumbbells; and 23, 44, 53, 70 lb kbs; plyo boxes, medium and large sandbags from Rep, flat and incline benches, and will eventually post pic.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Yea only thing I found that could keep or put on size was either ultra high volume chins and rope climbs and then Weighted pushups, ring pushups and ring rows. But nothing adds mass like the iron, nothing.
I know advanced ring training in daily like high level gymnastic guys can amd will put on tons of size from working the muscle in the stretched position but most people don't have the ability to do that. Takes months upon months to get like that. But that's why the gymnasts have such huge biceps and then shoulder/triceps see crazy volume so they grom too. Same with back with the chinning
I know advanced ring training in daily like high level gymnastic guys can amd will put on tons of size from working the muscle in the stretched position but most people don't have the ability to do that. Takes months upon months to get like that. But that's why the gymnasts have such huge biceps and then shoulder/triceps see crazy volume so they grom too. Same with back with the chinning
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:14 pm to SulphursFinest
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I’ll be looking for that garage
It's in Terra Saint, stop by anytime.
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:16 pm to mmill32
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Posts like this are why I keep coming back to the H/F board.
Thanks man
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After a few training breaks due to medical reasons (inguinal hernia surgery then testicular cancer), the strength came back a lot quicker than the cardio / fitness level.
I started running with my girlfriend's running friend post-COVID after gyms closed so returning to training wasn't as awful as it could've been when gyms opened.
I started CrossFit over 7 years ago now, so that is what I refer to in "training" above.
Yea luckily mine wasn't injury. I have been realities injury free other than a hamstring strain in hs, some knee tendinitis from burpees and occasionally some elbow tendinitis.
Coming back from injury can be a mother fricker. Congrats on putting your foot down and doing it.
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Slowly starting to develop garage gym as well with 7 different barbell options, all of the needed bumpers, stand, dumbbells; and 23, 44, 53, 70 lb kbs; plyo boxes, medium and large sandbags from Rep, flat and incline benches, and will eventually post pic.
For sure post it.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:45 am to lsu777
Feel like hot chicks are the only reason I go to the gym and I could never see having one of those at my house
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:49 am to el Gaucho
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Feel like hot chicks are the only reason I go to the gym and I could never see having one of those at my house
touche.....gaucho....touche.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:08 pm to lsu777
You ever try pistol squats? I suck at them, but they destroy your quads and can be done anywhere.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:32 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Yea I can do them, but I prefer kot split squats and sissy squats. Just a personal preference.
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