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Mental struggle while going for weight loss (Update pt2 page 3)
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/21 at 8:58 pm
Hey guys, kind of new to this board, so apologies in advance if this has been stated 100x.
But, I’ve been currently working out consistently 4-6 days a week since about November. (doing cardio for 10-25 mins depending on day and then lifting for 45-hour). Although i’m seeing progress in muscle gain, I can’t get the weight loss journey kickstarted.
I’m severely struggling with the mental side of things. Struggle with drinking on weekends, which leads to fast food. It’s not happening as often anymore, though.
I’ve been trying to watch what I eat, but usually towards end of the week is when I lose sight of things and let myself go....
Also, i’m 5’8 205
Any help?
But, I’ve been currently working out consistently 4-6 days a week since about November. (doing cardio for 10-25 mins depending on day and then lifting for 45-hour). Although i’m seeing progress in muscle gain, I can’t get the weight loss journey kickstarted.
I’m severely struggling with the mental side of things. Struggle with drinking on weekends, which leads to fast food. It’s not happening as often anymore, though.
I’ve been trying to watch what I eat, but usually towards end of the week is when I lose sight of things and let myself go....
Also, i’m 5’8 205
Any help?
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:21 pm to GEAUX5
quote:
Although i’m seeing progress in muscle gain, I can’t get the weight loss journey kickstarted
That's still a good sign. Just because you aren't losing weight doesn't mean you aren't looking better. I also struggle on weekends when I cut. I get around it by going way under on calories on the weekends during the day if I know I'm going out at night. Its impossible to track whatever you eat/drink at a restaurant. 1 hour fasted walks in the morning will also help a lot as well.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:25 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Another thing is, I don’t know really what to cook as the main source besides chicken.
Trying to weed myself off sweet tea and go strictly water.
Trying to weed myself off sweet tea and go strictly water.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:31 pm to GEAUX5
Cut the alcohol and the carbs if you are serious. Otherwise deal with your lack of results you want.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:17 am to GEAUX5
A couple of thoughts:
1. Worry less about the scale and more about how your clothes are fitting.
2. Don’t drink your calories. Put down the tea.
3. Plan your cheat days. Be strict during the week, but know that on Saturday you’re going to eat whatever the hell you want. I find it’s easier to be strict during the week when you have something to look forward to. I also only drink alcohol on Friday and Saturday.
Just my thoughts but others may have different ideas. Good luck!
1. Worry less about the scale and more about how your clothes are fitting.
2. Don’t drink your calories. Put down the tea.
3. Plan your cheat days. Be strict during the week, but know that on Saturday you’re going to eat whatever the hell you want. I find it’s easier to be strict during the week when you have something to look forward to. I also only drink alcohol on Friday and Saturday.
Just my thoughts but others may have different ideas. Good luck!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:49 am to GEAUX5
quote:Snacks=small portions of nuts, Oikos triple zero Greek yogurt, an ounce of cheese. I like to cook omelettes or scrambled eggs in a mug in the microwave with Eggbeaters (25 Cals per serving, no fat, good protein). Shred some rotisserie chicken in a salad with vegetables, little shredded cheese, a little olive oil or low cal/low fat small amount of dressing. Light vegetable soup. I buy John Soules fajita beef and chicken in a bag and eat it in a salad or a keto cheese wrap.
Another thing is, I don’t know really what to cook as the main source besides chicken.
Get smaller plates and small ramekins/bowls for portion control. Measure your steps/distance on a pedometer. I use pedometer++ on my phone and walk a lot more once I see my progress. I’ve been doing this for 6 months and have walked 1500 miles. Best of luck to you! You can do this.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:27 am to GEAUX5
Try potatoes. Those little frickers make me full for hours.
Pretty much eat them in some form or another when I'm cutting
Pretty much eat them in some form or another when I'm cutting
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 7:29 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:33 am to MrSpock
They are extremely satiating. Like complete opposite of a dorito lol. Which I have an impulsive ability to snag that 450 calorie bag at checkout on the weekend after a couple glasses of wine and destroy. 1 large russet is probably 300 calories but damn that’s gonna fill you up. If you eat the dorito then you gonna eat the russet after.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:44 am to MrSpock
What are the best ways towards cutting?
Is it more than just staying in a calorie deficit?
Is it more than just staying in a calorie deficit?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:58 am to GEAUX5
No.
Losing weight has been solved. A caloric deficit. The difficulty is what you are having issues with in the mental game.
About 12 years ago I was nearing 300 pounds and found someone, thankfully, that had figured out this “magic” diet of the caloric deficit. Being a math guy it made sense. However, it did require that “click” or whatever you want to call it where I snapped out of it and my relation with food became different and I decided I was going to get in shape.
Start by trying to get through one weekend without cheating. It will hopefully be more fulfilling and satisfying than cheating. You need to be able to take pleasure in the discipline you exerted over yourself. You really don’t want to think about it being a diet so you can cheat. It needs to be your new healthy life.
That last part is what, unfortunately, requires the “click” that comes after you wanting it enough (ie more than the high calorie foods/drinks)
For 99% of the population weight loss has been solved. Caloric deficit. Losing weight is 99% discipline as the 1% method has been solved. The euphoric/happy feelings you get from terrible food and drink are extremely fleeting. Sometimes you literally feel worse than before. You feel worse than you would have if you ate nothing all. It was all for a flash in the pan emotional feeling.
If you change your eating habits you greatly increase your chance of living longer AND you will feel better in the years you have left.
Losing weight has been solved. A caloric deficit. The difficulty is what you are having issues with in the mental game.
About 12 years ago I was nearing 300 pounds and found someone, thankfully, that had figured out this “magic” diet of the caloric deficit. Being a math guy it made sense. However, it did require that “click” or whatever you want to call it where I snapped out of it and my relation with food became different and I decided I was going to get in shape.
Start by trying to get through one weekend without cheating. It will hopefully be more fulfilling and satisfying than cheating. You need to be able to take pleasure in the discipline you exerted over yourself. You really don’t want to think about it being a diet so you can cheat. It needs to be your new healthy life.
That last part is what, unfortunately, requires the “click” that comes after you wanting it enough (ie more than the high calorie foods/drinks)
For 99% of the population weight loss has been solved. Caloric deficit. Losing weight is 99% discipline as the 1% method has been solved. The euphoric/happy feelings you get from terrible food and drink are extremely fleeting. Sometimes you literally feel worse than before. You feel worse than you would have if you ate nothing all. It was all for a flash in the pan emotional feeling.
If you change your eating habits you greatly increase your chance of living longer AND you will feel better in the years you have left.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:09 am to Azazie
Thank you for the words. I appreciate it.
Main thing is, like you said, I make it though a weekend being clean and feeling that satisfaction.
Main thing is, like you said, I make it though a weekend being clean and feeling that satisfaction.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:24 am to GEAUX5
I could go on about this forever so please ask for any other tips or bring up times you’re struggling.
I think if you can drill in how fleeting those feelings are that come with the high caloric foods that could help. On Monday morning how satisfying and enjoyable is that double cheeseburger you had Friday night? What is satisfying every day is seeing yourself in the mirror and being happy and full of energy.
I think if you can drill in how fleeting those feelings are that come with the high caloric foods that could help. On Monday morning how satisfying and enjoyable is that double cheeseburger you had Friday night? What is satisfying every day is seeing yourself in the mirror and being happy and full of energy.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:48 am to GEAUX5
quote:
What are the best ways towards cutting?
Is it more than just staying in a calorie deficit?
The best for me in cutting is to find something I can eat over and over and over.
That for me is steak and potatoes. I'll eat that shite all day every day for weeks. When I can't take it anymore I'll give myself a single day every couple of weeks to eat whatever. Then immediately back to steak and potatoes.
Repeat until you like what you see in the mirror.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:53 am to MrSpock
Incredible method. I love steak and potatoes
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:01 am to GEAUX5
That will work if you are in a deficit. You can literally eat anything. See Professor Mark Haub diet experiment. Lost like 30 pounds in 10 weeks eating twinkies,Oreos, and other junk. He just maintained a deficit on crap food. His blood markers even improved after.
Don’t worry about eating “healthy” for now. Nothing is healthier than losing weight. Worrying about your vitamin levels, micronutrients, blah blah is focusing on the paper cut while you have a gunshot wound (being overweight) in your abdomen.
Don’t worry about eating “healthy” for now. Nothing is healthier than losing weight. Worrying about your vitamin levels, micronutrients, blah blah is focusing on the paper cut while you have a gunshot wound (being overweight) in your abdomen.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:48 am to GEAUX5
I’ve been reading lately about Albert Bandura’s social cognitive theory, specifically his development of how self-efficacy beliefs can serve as a mediator between ourselves and our goals. Essentially, it boils down to your confidence and competency levels in accomplishing a task. It’s not necessarily about the outcome, but the activity itself. So for example, we wouldn’t assess a high school student’s self-efficacy belief to get an A on a math test but rather their belief in performing the steps in solving a math problem, which ultimately leads to the A.
I’m no psychologist, but I’ve been applying this strategy for myself as I too am going on a cut.
Divide your goal into performance activities. So, for example, one may be choosing to eat a healthy dinner Friday night. One might be resisting alcohol on the weekend. One might be meal prepping your work lunches.
Turn them into “I can” statements. “I can resist alcohol on Saturdays.” “I can eat a healthy meal Friday night.” Now to be technical, each one of these should be considered individual activities with their own “I can” statements. But I think going more general here will be fine.
Then rate your confidence/competence with each statement on a scale of 0-100. Don’t use the Likert scale. And don’t rate them on what you want to do but rather what you know you can or can’t do.
Research says this method helps you reflect on your strengths and weaknesses and then make necessary adjustments to what you need to do in order to perform each activity successfully.
Complicated, I know, but it’s worked for me.
I’m no psychologist, but I’ve been applying this strategy for myself as I too am going on a cut.
Divide your goal into performance activities. So, for example, one may be choosing to eat a healthy dinner Friday night. One might be resisting alcohol on the weekend. One might be meal prepping your work lunches.
Turn them into “I can” statements. “I can resist alcohol on Saturdays.” “I can eat a healthy meal Friday night.” Now to be technical, each one of these should be considered individual activities with their own “I can” statements. But I think going more general here will be fine.
Then rate your confidence/competence with each statement on a scale of 0-100. Don’t use the Likert scale. And don’t rate them on what you want to do but rather what you know you can or can’t do.
Research says this method helps you reflect on your strengths and weaknesses and then make necessary adjustments to what you need to do in order to perform each activity successfully.
Complicated, I know, but it’s worked for me.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:16 am to GEAUX5
quote:
What are the best ways towards cutting?
Is it more than just staying in a calorie deficit?
no, at the end of the day it is strictly a caloric deficit. Let's say you workout everyday during the work week and eat healthy so you're in a calorie deficit everyday from your maintenance. Then come the weekend time you are pounding a 12 pack and pairing it with very calorically dense fast foods or possibly other snacks. What you're currently experiencing is called the work week diet. You keep your diet in check m-th and then binge friday night-sunday and completely neutralize the work you did previously. I'm not surprised you're seeing enhanced muscle, because it sounds like at the end of the weeks you're in a caloric surplus.
If you really want to drop weight/fat, you have to be in a strict deficit at the end of the week, and it sounds like you can only do that by controlling your weekends. Dieting really doesn't have to be that bad, I suggest first figuring out what your maintenance calories are, creating a measured workout plan, and then ordering greg doucette's anabolic cookbook and eating good food while not hating yourself. That will make the weight loss process so much easier. Good luck.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:52 pm to GEAUX5
Best short advice I can give is break up your goals into manageable sections.
Gives you something more immediate to achieve.
Gives you something more immediate to achieve.
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