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LGD-4033 and SR9009 - SARM discussion

Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:53 pm
Just had a DEXA scan today and in 11 weeks I gained 8 pounds of lean mass while losing 24 pounds of fat tissue.

I took LGD-4033 for 5 weeks during this and only got off of it because I had a few trips traveling out of the country and didn't feel like explaining sarms to customs. I attribute LGD for the lean mass I gained along with really upping my protein intake per advice from 777.

For 4 weeks after that I took SR9009 for fat loss and energy. It was pretty impressive with the energy gain but not sure how much it truly helped with the fat loss as my progress on that front didn't slow down or speed up from my previous pace.

Just figured I would share because I see people ask about the results from SARMs and no one seems to share results even though they have been discussed here.

I am probably going to start a stack in December for a full re-comp but I am not sure which SARMs I will stack because as of today I am at 167 pounds of lean mass (I am 6' if that means anything) and not sure how much more muscle I really want to put on. Really need to lose about 15 pounds of fat and not lose any lean mass to get into the 13-15% BF range.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:13 pm to
I would focus on getting below 10% body fat. You will have a better rate of muscle to fat when you bulk again. Get to 10% or lower and stay there for 4 weeks. Then do a lean bulk.

Btw hell of a job.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Btw hell of a job.




Thanks

I have never been 10% BF in my life and will be 39 in a few weeks. I would love to get that lean for a period, but I am not sure how realistic it will be for me. I would really have to buckle down and follow the lean-gains method to a T I imagine as my weight loss is already slowing down the past few weeks as I don't have as much fat to burn.

I truly appreciate the advise as always.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:55 pm to
What does the decals say your bf% is?

What is your current routine? What is current macros? Can adjust this to keep it going pretty well.
Posted by LSUballsack
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:12 pm to
TBH you are most likely getting sold Prohormone if you buy sarms. The SARM industry as a whole is very sketchy. I remember when Tony Huge was selling all sorts of drugs under the name of "research chemicals"
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:15 pm to
I am buying from Narrows labs and they have the lab test from an independent test center for each batch online for review. Other people have also bought from them and paid for testing themselves to see if it was legit and it was.

777, I will get the info and post it for you so you can help me.
Posted by LSUballsack
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:27 pm to
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I am buying from Narrows labs and they have the lab test from an independent test center for each batch online for review. Other people have also bought from them and paid for testing themselves to see if it was legit and it was.


Just be safe, my dumbass friend bought from SARMS 1 and got shut down bad. I was telling him the whole time that shite was probably fake.

I took an"ostarine" and "LGD" stack for about a week and I could notice it working. My piss was pretty dark which led to my assumption whatever I was taking was methylated and was most likely not LGD or ostarine so I dropped that shite asap.

Wish I could try real sarms though sometime down the road not now though #nattyLyfe
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:41 pm to
Sarms shut you down despite the claims, just not as hard to recover from. Plenty of lab test to show this, plenty.

As far as your piss being dark, that's not a sign of methylation it's a sign of not enough water. Plenty of people have taken superdrol and drank 2 gallons of water a day and had clear piss. Superdrol is double methylated.
Posted by burgeman
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:25 am to
You made it back to the Chuck yet? I passed through the other day with a load.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:53 am to
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As far as your piss being dark, that's not a sign of methylation it's a sign of not enough water. Plenty of people have taken superdrol and drank 2 gallons of water a day and had clear piss. Superdrol is double methylated.


Yeah, darker urine is about hydration and potentially kidney function. Methylation is hardest on the liver.

I did some PH's back in thebdays they were legal, but wouldn't have messed with Superdrol. That was always the weird aspect of PH's. They were legal, but designer steroids. The stuff people did to make them orally active were also usually significantly worse on the body than injectables.

I don't claim to be an expert in the area, but the prohibitions drive so much misinformation. You hear people talk about any PED like it's "steroids."
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:39 am to
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Lsu777


Would you recommend SARMs during a cut? I know they are very mild from a results standpoint, but are they enough to help preserve muscle during a calorie deficit?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:39 am to
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Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:21 am to
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but are they enough to help preserve muscle during a calorie deficit?



That's exactly what true SARMs are made for. They are to keep muscle from wasting away for cancer patients. There are other supplements out there that people call SARMs but are more steroid or HGH than they are SARM.

Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:28 am to
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That's exactly what true SARMs are made for. They are to keep muscle from wasting away for cancer patients. There are other supplements out there that people call SARMs but are more steroid or HGH than they are SARM.


Good call.

This sounds like what I'm looking for. I wouldn't be expecting muscle gains from SARMs. I just need need something to get my cut going without being worried about too much muscle loss. I will be starting my spring cut very soon (a couple months early )
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:08 pm to
i dont recommend it usually but if you wanted to I would use GW from MA LAbs. If you wanted to take it the next level from there gh frag before morning cardio, and once again 3 hours or so before breaking a fast.
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

i dont recommend it usually but if you wanted to I would use GW from MA LAbs. If you wanted to take it the next level from there gh frag before morning cardio, and once again 3 hours or so before breaking a fast.


Thank you sir. I will research this combo.

It took me a while to find it, but it looks “GW” from MA is cardarine right?
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:55 pm to
Correct
Posted by lsu5803tiger
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:13 pm to
Have you considered TRT rather than sarm cycles?
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:17 pm to
I don't mean you shouldn't plan for SARMS having an effect, but TRT is as close to a guarantee as there is of natural test shutdown and a lifetine guarantee.

SARMS can shut down testosterone production, but there are differing results. TRT, I would plan for shutdown as a certainty.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:02 pm to
Try is a medical protocol not a damn cycle.
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