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Keto Guide
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:57 am
Enjoyed lurking since the board started.
I’m a big guy who wants to get healthy and I need a guide on how to do Keto. I’m about 65 pounds overweight. Does anyone have a good website or book they would recommend?
I’m a big guy who wants to get healthy and I need a guide on how to do Keto. I’m about 65 pounds overweight. Does anyone have a good website or book they would recommend?
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:07 am to Rev1897
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:17 am to Rev1897
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:20 am to Rev1897
If you're into podcasts, Joe Rogan has had tons of well qualified and knowledgeable doctors who can explain pretty much all you need to know about the Ketogenic Diet. My favorite has been Dr. Dom D'Agostino, ep. 994. Dr. Gaplin is a good one too, and so is Dr. Rhonda Patrick. Most everyone I've heard of that's stuck to it has gotten great results so keep to it, and the fat will melt away.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:50 am to NotoriousFSU
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Most everyone I've heard of that's stuck to it has gotten great results so keep to it, and the fat will melt away.
Can vouch.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
Thanks everyone!
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:01 am to Rev1897
Search for The Everyday Ketogenic Kitchen: With More than 150 Inspirational Low-Carb, High-Fat Recipes to Maximize Your Health on Amazon. Very good keto cookbook.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:04 am to NotoriousFSU
What happens when you start eating carbs again?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:05 pm to bawbarn
You're kicked out of ketosis, and will probably pack on a few pounds initially. If you lose a good amount of weight in ketosis, then you probably won't put it all back on at once, but it's a slippery slope from 5lbs to 10lbs to 20lbs to 40lbs, etc. It requires a change in lifestyle to effectively keep the weight you lose off. I've only done one round of Keto for about 5 months, where I went from 205 to 185, and have since switched over to a regular carb filled diet for the last 4 months, and am just under 200 currently. Definitely plan to get back in Ketosis starting in January to cut some of the fat recently put on, and because of the additional benefits that come with putting your body into ketosis aside from weight loss, i.e. mental clarity, more energy and focus, and eating all the bacon.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:11 pm to Rev1897
How do you currently eat?
I seriously recommend gradually reducing carbs over time to maximize your chances of adherence and get used to "running on fat."
You can target a carb number for gradual reduction over time, or start eliminating carbs at each meal - whatever works best for you.
I seriously recommend gradually reducing carbs over time to maximize your chances of adherence and get used to "running on fat."
You can target a carb number for gradual reduction over time, or start eliminating carbs at each meal - whatever works best for you.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:41 pm to bawbarn
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What happens when you start eating carbs again?
You die.
Seriously though, why would you want to go back from eating such rich, tasty foods? The first problem is always, "Can I eat bread again?" That shouldn't be the way to look at it. The way to look at it is, "Eating bread got me this way, I shouldn't eat bread again and maintain my health."
Who is going to judge a steak & broccoli?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:44 pm to NotoriousFSU
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You're kicked out of ketosis, and will probably pack on a few pounds initially. If you lose a good amount of weight in ketosis, then you probably won't put it all back on at once, but it's a slippery slope from 5lbs to 10lbs to 20lbs to 40lbs, etc. It requires a change in lifestyle to effectively keep the weight you lose off. I've only done one round of Keto for about 5 months, where I went from 205 to 185, and have since switched over to a regular carb filled diet for the last 4 months, and am just under 200 currently. Definitely plan to get back in Ketosis starting in January to cut some of the fat recently put on, and because of the additional benefits that come with putting your body into ketosis aside from weight loss, i.e. mental clarity, more energy and focus, and eating all the bacon.
I went from almost zero carb, but not keto to introducing some carbs back just because I got a lot busier. Just because you eat carbs doesn't mean you'll gain weight back. You will gain probably around 5 lbs of water weight, but that fluctuates. If you gained almost all of the weight you lost back after quitting keto it's because you ate too many cookies as not because you stopped keto. At the end of the day it's about how many calories you consume and how many you burn.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Just because you eat carbs doesn't mean you'll gain weight back. You will gain probably around 5 lbs of water weight, but that fluctuates.
That's not what I said, and you contradicted yourself in the very next sentence. Maybe sit this one out, friend.
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If you gained almost all of the weight you lost back after quitting keto it's because you ate too many cookies as not because you stopped keto
You're making false assumptions about my experience with keto, buddy. The first 5-10lbs I gained after keto was an effortless consequence of my own doing, and it was not due to poor dieting either. If anything, I was more conscious of my diet after learning the ins and outs of ketosis. I made the decision to put on a few extra pounds additionally to what I gained after the first 2 weeks, all while still eating healthy. I purposely gained that weight to get back strength and mass lost during keto. Furthermore, my use of keto wasn't like OP for dramatic weight loss, which is a completely different approach because we're aiming for different results.
The whole point of this thread is to help OP by offering him information based off your own experience with keto. If your experience was different than mine, then so be it. Don't presume to know exactly how ketosis works for others based on your experience, especially considering how some high level athletes can eat 100 plus carbs a day and still be in ketosis.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:53 pm to NotoriousFSU
FWIW that was supposed to say calories not cookies, not sure what happened. With that said, you got really defensive about keto. The way you worded all that you made it seem if you stop keto you're going to gain weight when that simply is not true. You will add a little water weight going from no carb to some carb intake, but like I said, it's going to fluctuate day to day or even during the day.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I agree. I did get defensive because I made sure to include "probably" before I made a claim about fluctuation in weight when switching off a ketogenic diet, and you seemingly ignored and twisted what I said. My response was triggered mostly by the "cookies/calories" remark. It came off as a baseless assumption, but you said it was a mistake so no harm no foul. The bottom line is I was warning the OP that going from low carb back to normal/high carbs will result in weight gain. It might be water weight, or it might be something else. I'm in no means an expert on this stuff. Just recalling from my own personal experience.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:46 pm to NotoriousFSU
Any material on the justification for high fat? I just can't seem to wrap my brain around how eating bacon and dousing everything in olive oil or butter can be deemed healthy
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:08 pm to bawbarn
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What happens when you start eating carbs again?
Nothing as long as you don't blow up your calories. I've maintained 30lbs of weight loss for the last few months while eating all sorts of different carbs.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:14 pm to Captain Crackysack
NY Times Article Exposing Lies Told About Fat By Medical Doctors
Haven't read this particular article, but I assume it stems from the same material I've been exposed to about this issue.
Basically, the sugar industry paid doctors and nutrition specialists since the 50s to create a false narrative and publish misleading research about the correlation between high fat diets and poor health indications. First heard about it on the JRE podcast, and since, Joe has had a handful of doctors specializing in nutrition debunk all the lies we've been brainwashed into believing in respect to the Standard American Diet.
Fats are good. Refined carbohydrates are bad.
There's also evidence for the human body and brain utilizing fat as a better source of energy supported by what we've learned about our primordial ancestors whose diets consisted of high amounts of fat, like animal meat, and very low in carbs because they didn't have the means for mass cultivation and production of wheat products.
ETA: If you look into it further I'm sure you'll find all the material needed to rethink your position.
Haven't read this particular article, but I assume it stems from the same material I've been exposed to about this issue.
Basically, the sugar industry paid doctors and nutrition specialists since the 50s to create a false narrative and publish misleading research about the correlation between high fat diets and poor health indications. First heard about it on the JRE podcast, and since, Joe has had a handful of doctors specializing in nutrition debunk all the lies we've been brainwashed into believing in respect to the Standard American Diet.
Fats are good. Refined carbohydrates are bad.
There's also evidence for the human body and brain utilizing fat as a better source of energy supported by what we've learned about our primordial ancestors whose diets consisted of high amounts of fat, like animal meat, and very low in carbs because they didn't have the means for mass cultivation and production of wheat products.
ETA: If you look into it further I'm sure you'll find all the material needed to rethink your position.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:29 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Joe has had a handful of doctors specializing in nutrition debunk all the lies we've been brainwashed into believing in respect to the Standard American Diet.
I'm pro keto if that's the diet you want to adhere to and anti carb, but it seems you may've been brainwashed by the keto supporters. Anyone that refuses to see any of the deficiencies of something (and every single thing ever created has them) is not a reliable source.
You didn't even read the article you posted, but since it's pro keto it's right.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:41 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Now it seems as though you're on the offensive. I'll admit to my own bias, but it comes from listening to certified nutritional experts freely sharing their findings backed by research. You need to chill with that "refuses to see any of the deficiencies in something" and stop putting words in my mouth. Also, I'm beginning to question your reading comprehension skills because you seem to either be willfully ignorant or just flat out ignoring what I'm saying in order to take it out of context. frick is wrong with you?
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