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Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:24 am
Posted by GalacticMicrobe99
Member since Oct 2020
75 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:24 am
I am looking into adding a home gym to do Greyskull LP. The room I will likely use is 10'9" x 6'10". The squat racks I am currently looking at for my use are the Rogue RE-3 echo and the Rogue SML-2 monster lite 90" squat stand. I would like to know what everyone thinks about these. Also, I am concerned about space. Do you think my area is large enough for a full-size barbell or should I consider a shorter length bar? Thanks for your help.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:52 am to
A standard barbell is 7’ in length. So, you may want to consider a shorter barbell. I don’t know if that will affect your performance in anyway, but I doubt it. Weights are weights. You do not have much room to work with, so I would suggest you be as compact as possible. Any conditioning will have to be done outside unless you want to do burpees until your nose bleeds.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:37 am to
It’s a tight fit, but people have made it work in worse. I’d suggest at least a half rack over a squat stand to add more versatility because versatility is king when it comes to home gyms. Also, make sure you check your ceiling height. The racks and stands are taller than you think.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:16 am to
Ok, first use full size bar. I would get the shorter C70 bar from rogue for accessory work. The 10' dimesnsion will have to be your width.

As far as rack, with your dimensions, I would highly suggest a folding rack. Prx has the best but its expensive. Rigue,rep, elitefts, even titan should be places you are looking. Bolt fitness and heptagon strength are other options.

You want to stick with 3x3 if possible but 2x3 works also. 21.5" or so depth. Either 1" or 5/8" holes. 3x3 with those options would give you the ability to use the most accessories.

Go tallest you can fit. So you can hang rings from pullup bar.

You want foldable to give your self as much floor space as possible.

Get a flat bench that you can hang on the wall with a wall hanger. Rogue utility would prolly be my pick, cheap and well built.

Doing this setup would allow you to do all barbell movements in and outside the cage. Also with a pair of adjustable dumbbells later, allows for almost all dumbbell movements. Add rings and you have a shite ton of exercises you can do, especially if you get creative. Add a dip attachment and you are pretty much set.

I would get the dip attachment with the rack and add rings as my next purchase.

In order of recommendation

1) nice barbell(get a nice multi purpose bar with good knurl. I suggest Ohio bar raw or a power bar)

2) weights

3) rack with front safeties

4) bench

5) dip attachment

6) rings

7) landmine

8) bands

9) db-15 or similar loadable dumbbells

10) ssb bar from titan

11) ez curl bar

12) kbs in 26, 35, 53, 70

13) echo Ghd

14) leg roller attachments

15) loaded strongman bags

Build your sandbag as shown in the book for conditioning. Hit the barbell and bodyweight movements hard.

Slow build out the rest of the gym its plenty of room to do all rack and floor barbell movements. Also for bodyweight.



Posted by RainMan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
530 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:35 am to
I have a half rack that I got from Perform Better that fits in a similar size space. Use a full size bar and you should be fine with the 10' width. Gonna be tight squatting in that space though
Posted by GalacticMicrobe99
Member since Oct 2020
75 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:14 am to
Thanks everyone for the replies. I have 10' ceilings so that should be fine. My main concern was the width of the room and the length of the barbell in there. One side of the room is partially open so the bench and everything will clear. I have a cheap flat bench now and will upgrade in the future. A few other questions I have:

Why is 3"x3" important? Durability vs accessory availability?

If I go with a half rack, does it have to be bolted down?

I plan to get some rings in the future also. For conditioning, I plan on doing Peloton and burpees. I just hate running. Thabks again.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Why is 3"x3" important? Durability vs accessory availability?


Both. Most accessories are compatible with 3x3 steel with either 1” or 5/8” hardware. Now, a lot of that is still useable on 2x3 because they can fit on a 3” surface, but you lose half of your potential options on a 2x3 because many accessories will not fit the 2” surface. Versatility is king in home gyms and more so in your case because you are limited by space.

3x3 is also stronger, but this really only an issue for extremely strong people.

quote:

If I go with a half rack, does it have to be bolted down?


PRX will be mounted to the wall (and most other wall mount options for that matter) so no need to bolt to the ground. If going for free standing half rack, some companies have “flat foot” options that add weight to the bottoms so you don’t “need” to mount it. That’s fine for some, but, for me personally as someone who goes after strength, I like the stability that a mounted rack provides.
Posted by RainMan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
530 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:03 am to
I don't bolt mine to the floor. It's already very stable. It has a built in weight rack, and after loading a few hundred pounds of plates it's not going anywhere
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:10 am to
Exactly what dixie said. Sure right now 2x3 is fine but pretty much every company is going to 3x3 with either 1" or 5/8" hardware, almost exclusively. You are fine as of now with the basics but please take our advice, you will want to eventually add more and more accessories to add variety and with your limited space, you will want everything rack mounted.

If you go with wall mount foldable, its mounted to the wall, so no need to mount to floor as you want to be able to fold the rack away at times for more floor space. This would be the advisable way to go due to limited space.

If going a true half rack, well that will depend on how much weight you have on the back, the depth, and many other factors but in general its much safer to mount the rack.
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3082 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:25 am to
quote:

db-15 or similar loadable dumbbells

I just looked these up and they look NICE. Hadn't seen those before. Seems like a great option over a powerblock or something similar. Those "block" style dumbbells worry me from a longevity standpoint because it seems like if just one thing malfunctions the whole dumbbell would be useless.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:00 pm to
Uhhh i have the powerblocks and love them. Had then 5 years with no problems. They have a long warranty too.

The db-15s are much cheaper and offer a more traditional feel. But that also are uncomfortable when sitting on your legs. Also need lots of 10s & 5s once you get to upper level weights. But you get to start small and build which for many is more pallettable than a bigger upfront cost.

But they are more durable that blocks, allow for Olympic lifts and can also hold db bumper plates that allow them to be dropped or thrown.

Both have pros and cons. I love my powerblocks though and would never part from them. I do plan to get the db-15s and the db bumper plates eventually though.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66443 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Also need lots of 10s & 5s once you get to upper level weights


I throw a 25 on each side and find it works well enough. If i had to do it again i probably wouldn't have gotten the DB-15 for a couple of reasons:

1. They're very long which causes problems when your arms are close.

2. As you alluded to - they're pointy. You can't hoist them up using your legs, especially when you clip the ends.

I'd have probably gone with IronMasters or the Knurled handled Powerblocks if i had to do it all over.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:11 pm to
If you are using 25s you can let the weight sit on your leg which helps.

I do really like the new pepin adjustable and would give up my powerblocks for a set of those and the new nuobell adjustable
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:24 am to
Those nuobells look awesome but that price tag is tough. I’ve been looking for some adjustable DB and think the pepins might be the way I go. Really like that they screw into the handle so you can set the weight on your leg.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 9:20 am to
Nuobells are nice as hell but I have concerns with all the plastic they use on the moving parts. Seems that would wear out over time.

I also love my powerblocks but in general I think the pepins or the rogue handles are the way to go. Pepins prolly will be best in the long run for traditional dumbbell movements. But again, I would like to see some improvements on the design. Need to upgrade the rubber ring or send 8 replacement rings with the handles for users to replace them as they wear. Also needs umhw on the screw portion where it would contact the plates.

Also I am a little concerned that like spinlocks, the screw could come loose during the lift. Will have to see coops review on them.

Would also like to see a universal handle with screw sections that can handle 75/120/150 lbs respectively. I think they have the first two.

Also would love to see a fat grip knurled handle offered.

Overall I think they will be a game changer in the long run and wouldn't be surprised if someone like rogue started offered a similar product but one that uses Olympic plates instead.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 9:23 am to
I don’t know how I didn’t think that the DB-15s can just be used with iron Olympic weights....I kept looking at the bumpers as my only option and that is what deterred me because of the price.

TL;DR: I am dumb.
Posted by GalacticMicrobe99
Member since Oct 2020
75 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:34 pm to
Thanks for all of the solid advice. I will update once I pull the trigger. May I ask why you suggest a raw steel bar? Are most of the bar finishes personal preference? I guess I would worry about rust.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:41 pm to
Price especially if you can get a boneyard bar and feel of the knurl. Dust can be an issue but if you wipe it down once a month or so when 3 in 1 oil, it shouldn't, mine didn't.
Posted by GalacticMicrobe99
Member since Oct 2020
75 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:06 am to
What brands do you recommend for barbells and plates? It's a bit tough for me to get past Rogue's shipping prices. I would like to look locally for plates in Texas if they are in stock. Any brands to avoid? I am going to pull the trigger soon on the Rogue folding half rack in 3"x3". Any thoughts on the Rogue echo bar or Rogue bar 2.0? I'm keeping an eye on the Boneyard stuff.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:56 am to
Barbell is one thing I wouldn’t skimp on. Go for the Ohio Bar or the Ohio Power Bar. You can get one of the boneyard versions of those if you’re lucky, but I’d recommend either of those over the echo or the rogue bar.

What kind of lifting for you do? OPB is better for powerlifting and Ohio is better for oly lifting.

For weights, get whatever brand you want and just make sure the weight tolerance is no more than +\- 3% (and ideally 2% or less). Unfortunately, everyone is going to charge you out the arse for shipping right now as there’s a serious shortage of gym eq everywhere. Bumpers are going to be a better option for home gyms as they’re the more versatile option, but I love the sound of iron so I can’t fault anyone who goes that route.
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