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re: Daily Strength Check-In

Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:28 pm to
Simple check on your grip is throw on straps. If you can pull a lot more, that's your limiting factor.
Posted by JamesLang
Member since Mar 2018
388 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:10 pm to
Or try mixed. I refused to use mixed because of some crap I read. Then I read GSLP. My DL went from failing at 265 for 5 to pulling 285x9 a week later.

I can’t wrap my head around how full squats wouldn’t be more beneficial than halfs.

I’ll just add, that if grip is the limiting factor, it should be pretty obvious.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

What I'm saying is that his ratio could be skewed if he's half squatting and his squat number is higher than other people squatting to depth would be. If his dead is 275x3,


Got ya. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

simply asked you a question which you didn't actually answer


My thought on the question is that it depends on what the athlete struggles on.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278383 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:43 pm to
that still doesn’t answer my question

I see the half squat as an accessory lift. Would you agree or no
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:02 pm to
Did a light recovery upper today.

Speed bench 185x3, arm over arm rope sled pulls, paused dips with 25 lb weight and fat grip farmers walks. 6 giant sets of those.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:00 am to
quote:

you think they build strength equally?





Strength in what? The squat? The half squat? Finger push ups? It's an open ended question that you can trap an answer with.

If the athlete wants to get stronger in the squat, certain movements will make them stronger. Simply squatting is not the only answer. If you're out of the hole strength is stronger than your lock out, what good is it if you can't get the full squat? So now, lower the weight, squat so you can do the full squat. Now you are doing less weight in your bottom position to help the top part.

Sure, you can get back to the right balance by lowering the weight and moving up sequentially but the bottom end will weaken in the mean time. You can move up from there. That's an option.

You can also work on your weakness and round out the lift without weakening the bottom end. Another option.

See there are no absolutes.

I believe every person needs different coaching needs based on technique and experience.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:01 am to
quote:

see the half squat as an accessory lift. Would you agree or no


Could be. Couldn't be. Conjugate method works just great and the pin squat at weakness height can be a max effort lift which would be a main movement.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:02 am to
quote:

Speed bench 185x3, arm over arm rope sled pulls, paused dips with 25 lb weight and fat grip farmers walks. 6 giant sets of those.


You watch Brian alsruhe?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:05 am to
GSLP WEEK 2 DAY 2

Bench 230 x 12
Deads 360 x 12

Still can’t feel my damn legs.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 8:37 am to
quote:

What I'm saying is that his ratio could be skewed if he's half squatting and his squat number is higher than other people squatting to depth would be.
Does half actually mean half? I mean, I am not able to see my hip crease, but if I am not full, it's awful damn close. I have been no repped once, but that was with overhead where I really struggle with keeping my arms locked out. Not once in normal squats. I guess I'll have to start getting someone to check.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:04 am to
quote:

You watch Brian alsruhe?


All the time. The giant sets are something I took directly from him.

It really is great for building cardio and maximizing your time.
Posted by marchballer
The Greatest Country on Earth
Member since Aug 2008
4118 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:35 am to
5/3/1 BBB Cycle 2 Week 3

Deadlift 1+: 240 10 reps
Squat: 5x10 135
Ran on treadmill for 30 mins

Skilled accessories this morning. Needed to take care of errands. May try to do abs and stretch tonight after work.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Does half actually mean half?


I think he just means high
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:03 am to
Generally, the less depth you get, the more weight you can use. When I was saying half squat, I don't mean there's a cutoff, just that to start with an accurate measure for ratio, squat should be to parallel or below.

If you're good on depth, you know the measure's reliable, so next is to check your physical, mental and technical aspects for flaws.

FWIW, I hadn't considered you might be double overhanding it. If you are, that's going be a huge limiting factor for DL.
Posted by Lobo Apple Sauce
Member since Sep 2014
388 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:44 am to
After reading some replies and Googling Brian Asruhe, I am way out of my league here...ha ha. But, it was fun hanging out with the "cool kids".
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Googling Brian Asruhe
I just saw my first ever burpee-pullup. Something new for our gym!
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:51 am to
Hang out if you want to. I didn't mean to be disrespectful with any comment. It matters more your drive to improve.

I'm just some jerk lifting in my garage. Maybe some of these other guys are cool, but I'm definitely not.
Posted by Lobo Apple Sauce
Member since Sep 2014
388 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:59 am to
[[[virtual hugs]]]
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:13 am to
quote:

lifting in my garage


This is literally one of my goals. To be able to slam bars in my own home is something I really really want.
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