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re: Anybody try to take seed oils out of your diet....virtually impossible
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:53 pm to lsu777
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:53 pm to lsu777
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and for the record all of the new data suggest seed oils are anti inflamatory
No, it suggests that linoleic acid is anti inflammatory, of which you can get plenty of without seed oils in things like nuts, seeds, and many vegetables. It says it right there in your link
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:54 pm to lsu777
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yet you claim I dont get it
You just don’t understand what I am saying because all you can do is regurgitate (often with misspellings, grammatical errors, and incorrect homophone usage) you have no ability to understand context.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You just don’t understand what I am saying because all you can do is regurgitate (often with misspellings, grammatical errors, and incorrect homophone usage) you have no ability to understand context.
haha I just regurgitate? by linking studies showing you are wrong?
and here we go...attack grammar on a message board
Pretty much know you have lost the argument when that is what you have to resort to.
let me make this real clear for you...I do not care about spelling. I have spell check for that. I dont always use it on a damn message board
Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:27 pm to lsu777
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by linking studies showing you are wrong?
Most of the studies can be refuted with other evidence, are flawed, are paid for by big pharma and/or the food lobby, or a combination there of.
We DO NOT KNOW the severity of how “bad” seed oils are for us, but there IS a general consensus they don’t really provide anything GOOD for us (you can get more than a sufficient of linoleic acid without seed oils for example), so tell me one good reason we should be pumping them into almost our entire food supply.
Here’s what we do know, people are fatter than ever, people are sicker than ever, people are eating more than ever. Why is that?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Because the average American eats 3500 cal per day and gets less than 30 min of physical activity a week.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 3:09 pm to cajuns td
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Because the average American eats 3500 cal per day
Could part of the reason for this be that we are being pushed to eat highly palatable, not satiating foods? Is that not “harmful?” Would that not be considered “bad?” Have those things not increased with the introduction and commercialization of things like seed oils?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 3:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Highly palatable calorie dense foods are definitely a problem. That doesn't mean it's the seed oils.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 3:47 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
im not even gonna argue...after today...know what Mingo hope you have an amazing afternoon and go hug your loved ones tight
might not always see eye to eye but i really hope you have an amazing rest of the week and may god bless you.
might not always see eye to eye but i really hope you have an amazing rest of the week and may god bless you.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 4:33 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Just the fact that they are nonsatiating in and of itself is enough to label them as “harmful.”
Dude post one credible shred of evidence that the above statement is true besides hubes said this might be a thing on a podcast once and this whole thread turns to crickets. I would genuinely like to read it.
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you’re best argument is they just aren’t bad but also provide no benefit (and the theory they reduce cardiovascular events is pretty clearly not true) then what is the point?
Go read the OP again. Guy has himself tied into knots at the idea of eating trace amounts of seed oils, and is getting recommendations to shop a boutique grocer just to avoid them. The point is being able to see the forest for the trees and not over complicating everything to the point that it’s unsustainable.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 5:53 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Again if seed oils aren’t bad why not just eat a diet laden with seed oils?
Most of you aren’t making any sense. Seed oils are even in protein powders, certain vegetables and meat in frozen sections of grocery stores. They are in tons of shite people are eating. Since they aren’t bad why waste your time eating steak, grass fed beef, eggs, blueberries, bacon, etc? Just go hog wild on 1800 to 2000 cals of seed oil laden foods a day.
Most of you aren’t making any sense. Seed oils are even in protein powders, certain vegetables and meat in frozen sections of grocery stores. They are in tons of shite people are eating. Since they aren’t bad why waste your time eating steak, grass fed beef, eggs, blueberries, bacon, etc? Just go hog wild on 1800 to 2000 cals of seed oil laden foods a day.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:01 pm to ronricks
Because you are conflating heavily processed foods with seed oils.
You could eat a diet that contains seed oils and be just fine. Just be aware that oils are calorie dense and try not to overeat. Roasted almonds mentioned earlier is a perfect example.
One of the main things to remember regarding diet is that there is always a trade-off. If you remove seed oils, what are you replacing them with. Olive oil is probably a good option. Contrary to probably what a lot of people here think, I do not think tallow or butter is a more healthy option. The studies is above that I posted reflect that.
I'll add, I eat both butter and tallow.
You could eat a diet that contains seed oils and be just fine. Just be aware that oils are calorie dense and try not to overeat. Roasted almonds mentioned earlier is a perfect example.
One of the main things to remember regarding diet is that there is always a trade-off. If you remove seed oils, what are you replacing them with. Olive oil is probably a good option. Contrary to probably what a lot of people here think, I do not think tallow or butter is a more healthy option. The studies is above that I posted reflect that.
I'll add, I eat both butter and tallow.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:03 pm to ronricks
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Again if seed oils aren’t bad why not just eat a diet laden with seed oils?
I use them when I have them around and don’t have bacon grease within arms reach. No one has been able to produce even one scrap of reputable evidence that if I gram for gram replaced every bit of fat in my diet with seed oils my health would suffer (or improve) significantly, just fee fees and vibes. It’s the same things people spouted for years about saturated fats.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:07 pm to cajuns td
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Because you are conflating heavily processed foods with seed oils.
What do you think processed foods have in them
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:12 pm to cajuns td
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Because you are conflating heavily processed foods with seed oils.
No I am not. If you avoid processed foods altogether you aren’t going to be ingesting seed oils. That’s my point. There are also supposed ‘health foods’ and supplements that have seed oils in them. Many protein powders have seed oils in them along with various ‘gums’ ‘emulsifiers’ and artificial sweeteners. Why ingest all that stuff? It’s terrible for your gut for one.
This idea that seed oils are ‘fine’ or even ‘good’ is laughable. There is ZERO reason for any food to have seed oils in them. It’s not necessary yet they are there. Why? The answer to that question should tell you everything.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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What do you think processed foods have in them
I swear to god this forum makes me want to fricking strangle 98% of the people on here they are so god damn dumb. A bunch of fat fricks trying to lecture people on health and fitness.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:23 pm to ronricks
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A bunch of fat fricks trying to lecture people on health and fitness.
Didn’t you abuse anabolics for a couple decades? Now you’re a subject matter expert on gut health and longevity?
Almost 8 pages into to this thread and not one link, not one study, not even a scrap of evidence to support anything yall are claiming is an irrefutable fact.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:23 pm to ronricks
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I swear to god this forum makes me want to fricking strangle 98% of the people on here they are so god damn dumb. A bunch of fat fricks trying to lecture people on health and fitness.
777 and I just fundamentally disagree on some stuff and that’s all good, I just like to rile him up as much as anything, but damn some of these guys.
“Seed oils aren’t bad, but processed foods are”
Well what the frick do you think makes a food highly processed? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Preach.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:27 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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not even a scrap of evidence to support anything yall are claiming is an irrefutable fact.
I’ve explicitly said I don’t think either side of the argument is irrefutable fact
Posted on 9/10/25 at 6:36 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Didn’t you abuse anabolics for a couple decades?
18 years straight. Guess what? It was wrong. It was stupid. I’m lucky to be alive.
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Now you’re a subject matter expert on gut health and longevity?
This is what I focus on now. Metabolic and cardiovascular health. Natural training. Eating Whole Foods. Just doing the best I can. I’m convinced this is why I’m still alive.
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Almost 8 pages into to this thread and not one link, not one study, not even a scrap of evidence to support anything yall are claiming is an irrefutable fact.
It’s amazing what happens to people when they cut out seed oils and all the other fake and processed junk from their diet. Have you looked into who or what actually bankrolls these ‘studies’? The standard American diet is poison comprised of artificial/fake sweeteners, ingredients, preservatives, colors, flavors, etc.
Look around you. Everyone is a fat frick. We are starting to see fatty liver in 10 year olds now. What do you think is contributing to all this? It’s not ribeye steak or blueberries.
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