re: Y’all play one ball exclusively

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I am not a pro and distance is not on my top 5 list of concerns

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Thats dumb

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Putting is where all my strokes are gained

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Not true

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I might lose 1 or 2 shots a round due to an errant shot

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And probably a quarter of a shot if you are a short hitter

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How?

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Distance should be be number one for almost everyone, certainly top 3. Having it outside your top 5 for anyone is the wrong way to approach the game if you want to be good

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Do you know me and my game?

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I dont need to know your game to know you hitting it further would be the skill that would advance your game the most

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Trouble with reading comprehension?

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No, but its clear you have trouble with comprehending the best way to be good at golf

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Hitting it further doesn't advance your game the most.

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Comparatively, yes it does.

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Knowing how to get up and down out of a bunker 9/10,

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The best bunker player in the world can't do that.

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how to pitch the ball on the green and run out 25-30 feet, or lag putting from 35-40 feet is FAR more important than hitting the golf ball 15+ yards and where you will immediately find strokes gained.

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You are a professional are way closer in strokes gained in all of those than driving or approach shots. The farther away you are from the hole, the greater disparity between strokes gained

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So again, explain to me how distance is important to my game, my 0 handicap is interested.

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Distance is important for every golfer game, independent of handicap.



Or you could continue to dispute billions of data points across all levels and handicaps that prove that.

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You still never answered the question of how distance is important to my game - only pointed to PGA players and the statistical deviations which of course is minimal because you are talking about the top 1,000 players in the world as opposed to the difference between a 0 and 20 handicap.

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No I didn't.

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So, for anyone not playing in USGA sanctioned events, distance shouldn't be in the top 5 because that is now how you build consistency or solid foundation for your game

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Incorrect

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Knowing how to get up/down from a bunker or around the green 9/10 (in practice)

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Almost impossible, it is impossible as you increase the sample size

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learn feel on a putting green will decrease your scores faster than hitting the ball 15+ yards further.

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Unless you literally can't less than 3 putt on every single hole, again, this is just wrong


These aren't opinions they are facts supported by millions upon millions of shots compiled over more than a decade.

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hit my 7 170 with roll out


A 7i should not be rolling out

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I mean it isn’t rolling out much. Like bounce a few more yards. I’m a 15 handicap, a lot of things that shouldn’t happen tend to happen to me

Nope.

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FAR more important than hitting the golf ball 15+ yards and where you will immediately find strokes gained.

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for most golfers, that just isn't true. Gaining 15 yards off the tee, and most likely a club in the irons would mean going from a driver/5 iron on a 450 par 4 to possibly driver/7 iron. 99% of people hit a 7 iron better than their 5 iron and will get it closer 90%+ of the time.

While I think bunker play should be practiced, staying out of bunkers with shorter irons would be as much a priority. Out of my last 10 rounds I might have been in the bunker 2 or 3 times total, I am a solid bunker player and think I happened to get up and down on all of them, bunker play just isn't close to the priority maintaining distance is.

The art of lag putting is an understated skill. Getting to a second manageable putt is incredibly important, but again, having a shorter iron in hand means getting it closer and that means that I'm still going to prioritize distance over lag putting unless you are just a terrible putter. And the same goes with chipping. Hit more greens, take less chips and you do that by being closer to the hole.

None of this might equate to your game, I hit my irons a long way especially with the way they are set up but my driver has always been my achilles heel because of my natural swing. If I ever wanted to get back to a scratch handicap (i'm probably around a 6-8 now) the driver is where I would have to start. If I could drop a ball anywhere in the fairway at 275 (i am well capable of hitting it over 300) off each tee box, I am a 1 or 2 right now without any other practice or playing. But in order to better my driving I will need to change my driver set up and swing a bit. It isn't a matter of swapping balls or driver, my fundamental swing isn't built for a driver in hand.

Driver SS under 100, probably closer to 90 than 100.
7 iron 1fiddy.
Titleist Pro V or Vx, Taylormade TP5, Bridgestone's Senior whatever number it is. Chromesoft's too.
I'm old and have old clubs, so I got that going for me.

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Is the matte finish just a gimmick?

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i found a matted callaway supersoft ball (yellow I think). I used it for a practice shot and it felt, sounded, and soared pure. If they made a white matte ball I would have bought it - just cant bring myself to play colored balls. I'm sure it's just something in my head about that ball, I just happened to hit a good shot with it, and my brain attached "good shot" to "matte ball". But who wouldnt do something silly and ritualistic to lower their score ~

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