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re: Work going on at the Bluffs?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:57 pm to Bawpaw
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:57 pm to Bawpaw
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You’ll be old and feeble before it’s ready.
shite I feel that way now.
I ain’t banking on it, but it would be cool if it happens. Until then I got a few different spots I can be at in < 15 minutes that will do.
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:35 pm to ItsBernie
It was originally owned by a billionaire. Similar set up as Squire Creek. Could lose money ever year and it didn’t matter. Then Jim Tanner bought into it with the billionaire and eventually owned it all. I guess tanner wasn’t quite as liquid as he needed to be. Eventually he lost everything he had, including the bluffs. Since then, there’s been a couple different groups try to revamp and run……never worked. At one time that place was incredible.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:41 pm to hookfin
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At one time that place was incredible.
Yes siree !
Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:46 pm to ElderTiger
That was my favorite course in Louisiana in the 80’s-90’s.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 7:39 pm to Eye dentist
Late 80’s, we opened the course the last week of November 1988.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:04 pm to hookfin
Thanks.
It is a beautiful place and a damn shame it isn't able to keep going. Hopefully something changes.
It is a beautiful place and a damn shame it isn't able to keep going. Hopefully something changes.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:45 am to ItsBernie
It is a stunning piece of property, but nothing will change because it will always lose money.
To expand on the history….the billionaire actually bought the Bluffs from the original ownership because it lost money. He didn’t mind kicking in the difference each year. But he started having difficulties with home owners and sold it to the man that sunk it. It has never recovered and the home owners are still difficult to deal with.
Something should be noted here:
All courses lose money! All of them…
Unless you have a:
-Private membership of rich people with disposable income
-A very wealthy owner that doesn’t mind pumping money into the place each year
-Tax money to offset the difference
-A casino to offset the difference…
….the course will lose money.
I don’t know if Carter turns a profit, but it takes 6 hours to play.
The word is that the Bluffs will be stored to its original design. Do they know how much money it will take to not only restore it, but to maintain it?
It will be impossible. It’s just not feasible.
To expand on the history….the billionaire actually bought the Bluffs from the original ownership because it lost money. He didn’t mind kicking in the difference each year. But he started having difficulties with home owners and sold it to the man that sunk it. It has never recovered and the home owners are still difficult to deal with.
Something should be noted here:
All courses lose money! All of them…
Unless you have a:
-Private membership of rich people with disposable income
-A very wealthy owner that doesn’t mind pumping money into the place each year
-Tax money to offset the difference
-A casino to offset the difference…
….the course will lose money.
I don’t know if Carter turns a profit, but it takes 6 hours to play.
The word is that the Bluffs will be stored to its original design. Do they know how much money it will take to not only restore it, but to maintain it?
It will be impossible. It’s just not feasible.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:38 pm to BonesMalone
You nailed it Bones! The course is there but it needs new drainage, irrigation system, total renovation along with new equipment. $10-$12 million to do it right. It’s past the point of patching it up!
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:17 pm to BonesMalone
I’m curious because I live on a golf course, and the owner and homeowners have gotten along well. What kinds of problems were the homeowners causing?
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:12 am to hookfin
Who was the original Billionaire owner? I’m not from LA originally but I didn’t think there were many billionaires here.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:58 am to SFVtiger
Couldn't make the meeting but saw it was listed as Sold. We couldn't care less about the pools. Just would like restaurant and at least a playable course.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:04 am to SisOfSam
We do enjoy the new board and the updated frequent communications (Thank you JH) Nice firework show for the 4th. I'm sure residents would not mind going back to the $236/month POA fees if it meant helping out course. (Of course the billboard residents will never be happy) Either way, our residential area is beautiful property and even with course down we have managed to not see major drop in home values.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:36 pm to SisOfSam
I just do not understand the home owners (billboarders) in that neighborhood being against supporting the course. Madness IMO.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 6:16 am to SisOfSam
Sis, we too have a home at the Bluffs. Born and raised StF, will move back upon retirement. Even though not there, we too would gladly pay the monthly dues. The pool/grille are nice, but we mostly want the restaurant and bar back along with a playable course.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 1:02 pm to MAEFIELD
Harold has scheduled a follow up meeting Sunday. i plan on attending and if something significant has happened will post
Posted on 7/11/24 at 1:11 pm to dagrippa
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I just do not understand the home owners (billboarders) in that neighborhood being against supporting the course. Madness IMO.
It was really a few very vocal wads that led the charge against the poa supporting the club. the residents of the townhomes, most of which were never interested in the club in the first place, formed the support of the naysayers. mandatory membership should have been set up with the sale of residential property in the first place, but that would have been tricky given the economy in the late 80s. Most of the original members have passed, moved or are not into playing golf anymore, and the bump from selling land that was once undeveloped with the increase in value for proximity to the course is gone, so the operator of the club is no longer benefiting from the development of residential lots and the course has to stand on its own.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 1:16 pm to hookfin
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LJ Sevin
LJ originally was one of 35 or so original founders but then acquired a majority interest w/ Harold Leone as a partner, then bought out Harold after nixing the idea of a resort/private membership, then sold to Tanner who mortgaged everything and folded. Before Tanner had full control, the course had deferred maintenance for sure but was mortgage free and viable meeting operating expenses.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 2:23 pm to SFVtiger
Please do, I’m interested in his plan. My grandfather was a founding member; the Bluffs will always be special to me and my fam.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:37 am to MAEFIELD
How did the meeting go Sunday?
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