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Rory. "It sucks not being able to compete against the best players in The world anymore."
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:11 pm
quote:PGA ratings are garbage, when will they unify?
"We're probably still quite a long ways from it, but I would hope that in the future that we can get there, unify the game and get the best players back together again," he told the publication.
McIlroy added: "It sucks as a competitor that I only get to see and compete against some of those guys four times a year, because ultimately they do have some of the best players in the world that are playing some really good golf.
"To not see the very best players in the world together more often I think is a shame for the overall game of golf and for fans that want to watch the pro game around the world
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:30 pm to Plainview
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PGA ratings are garbage, when will they unify?
Wild to say this and not include LIV’s TV ratings too
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:40 pm to Dawgsontop34
Never said they didn't suck.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:44 pm to Plainview
Rory is not having much success lately competing against what he deems as the not best players.
Tired of hearing his whining on either side of the issue.
Tired of hearing his whining on either side of the issue.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:01 pm to Plainview
From LIV press conference today:
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Rory yesterday said he doesn't believe golf in its current state is sustainable. Do you agree with him, and do you think that the circuits need to be reunited?
PHIL MICKELSON: Go ahead, Jon (laughter).
JON RAHM: I think I agree with that statement, yeah. Every time I get asked a question like this, I say the same thing. I think there's room for both. It's as simple as that. 1 think we have the opportunity to end up with an even better product for the spectators and the fans of the game, a little bit more variety doesn't really hurt anybody. So I think -- I think properly done, we can end up with a much better product that can take golf to the next level worldwide, and I'm hoping that's what ends up happening.
PHIL MICKELSON: I agree with that. I think in the end, we are in a transitional state where we now have competition and that's leading to a lot of disruption and change but it's also in the end product going to make golf more global where the best players travel more. I don't know how it's going to end out, exactly, or what it's going to look like. I'm putting my trust in Yasir and where the game is headed more globally. But at some point when it gets ironed out, I think it's going to be in a much better place where we bring the best players from the world, and it's going to open up more opportunities for manufacturing, course design, for players in different parts of the world to be inspired and enter the game. I think it's going to be in a much better place. But right now, we are in the disruption phase, so we are in the middle of the process, and when it's all said and done, Dave it's going to be a lot brighter. But while we go through it, it’s challenging. But we’ll get there.
Q. You said it's the disruption phase, and around Twitter you joked that it's move 6 out of 37 or something. How much of the past few years has gone how you expected in golf, and where do you want it to go? Is it on that path?
PHIL MICKELSON: So I knew the first two years were going to be interesting. And how it all plays out, where it ends up, I don't know exactly. I just know that in the end, it's going to be a more global sport and there's going to be more opportunities. We already have 52 more playing opportunities or 54, for players. That's 54 more job opportunities that we didn't have before, and they are on a more global scale.
So we are bringing high-end, world-class professional golf to parts of the world to open up opportunities in those countries, and getting young kids to see it firsthand, the way we did, when we went to our local tour event and saw the pros for the first time and got inspired. So I don't know exactly where it's going to end up but I know it's going to end up in a more global environment.
One of the challenging things about golf that we don't talk about is that pretty much everybody here, we all watch football. We enjoy watching NFL but we don't play it. I don't play football. I don't go tackle on the weekend and nobody here does but we all watch it.
Golf, a lot of our viewers, almost all, a huge percentage of them, they all play golf, and how do we get golf to people that don't play golf. Like that's one of the challenges that's quietly being addressed with ideas and so forth, and I think there's going to be some things that will appeal in the end to people that don't necessarily play that want to watch and be interested in the game. Those are some areas that are being addressed quietly, haven't been discussed yet, but those are small parts that I think in the end we are going to have some ideas.
We are already here at LIV targeting a younger audience by decades, and that's a good thing, is we want to keep the younger generation interested in the game and not just keep losing fans. We want to keep gaining new ones as we lose some to age.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
Golf as as entertainment can’t sustain two tours. Regardless of that side you are on golf is not viable split. It was niche already, it will simply become almost obsolete as a spectator sport if it remains split
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:09 pm to lsupride87
That’s what Phil mentioned towards the end of his answer to the second question. Golf as a spectator sport is very niche. How do you grow the viewership to a younger crowd or to non-golfers?
Thats what LIV is trying to do. Same as Rory & Tiger are trying to do with TGL, I’m sure.
Thats what LIV is trying to do. Same as Rory & Tiger are trying to do with TGL, I’m sure.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:11 pm to JimTiger72
Young people are never going to sit down and watch a golf event. It’s just not going to really happen except when they catch lighting in a bottle with a tiger type situation
The reason YouTube golfers grab the youth market is because it’s golf in 10 minute increments for the crack addicted youth. I think it’s a lost cause to try and really grab that market
The reason YouTube golfers grab the youth market is because it’s golf in 10 minute increments for the crack addicted youth. I think it’s a lost cause to try and really grab that market
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:17 pm to JimTiger72
More from Bryson, Brooks, & Joaco:
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Rory yesterday said he didn't think golf could be sustainable in its current form. How much do you think that the sides need to come together?
BROOKS KOEPKA: As far as what Rory said, I don't know, I don't -- it's tough to tell the future. I have no control over anything. I'm just kind of, just keep going wherever they tell me to go. Same with the PGA TOUR guys. I just don't think anybody knows the future. Nobody knows on this side. Nobody knows on that side. It's up to people that are more important than me and more important than a bunch of the players to decide.
We'll let them figure it out and go from there.
Q. Just to follow up on a question for Bryson and Joaquín, how important, whether you know what's going on or not between the sides talking, how important is it for golf that something is resolved, and is the best result of that for you guys to come together or do you think LIV will be just as well standing on its own?
BRYSON DeCHAMBEAU: Well there's multiple ways that you can solve this problem. I think that from a player's perspective, it needs to come back together for the fans, No. 1.
The fans are what drive this sport. If we don't have fans, we don't have golf. We are not up here entertaining.
That's the most important thing as of right now, the low-hanging fruit. There's got to be a way to come together. How that comes together, that's above all of us out here.
We can give input. We can have little moments where we say, hey, we think this would be a good idea or that would be a good idea, but ultimately, it's up to the guys up top to figure it out and figure it out quickly because we can't keep going this direction. It's not sustainable for sure, and we all respect that and recognize that and want the best for the game of golf. We all love this game and we want to keep playing it and we want to keep competing.
The only answer is for us to somehow come together in some sort of terms where it makes sense and for us to be playing all again in somewhat of the same boat. It's great to have the majors where we come together, but we want to be competing, at least I want to be competing every week, with all of the best players in the world for sure.
JOAQUÍN NIEMANN: I'm the same way. I feel like right now, the game of golf is kind of divided a little bit and I feel like that you've got to do it for the fans and for everybody getting more entertainment. I feel like, yeah, they have got to, it's not between us. I mean, I feel like the players, we are just here and we need to make birdies to make everything better. It's up to other people to come into an agreement and know what is going to be the best for the game and have all of those guys working into the same direction and not thinking against each other.
BRYSON DeCHAMBEAU: And it needs to happen fast. It's not a two-year thing. Like it needs to happen quicker rather than later just for the good of the sport. Too many people are losing interest.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:19 pm to JimTiger72
I do think it’s positive the public narrative now from the LIV players is is we need to come together.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:spot on
Golf as as entertainment can’t sustain two tours. Regardless of that side you are on golf is not viable split. It was niche already, it will simply become almost obsolete as a spectator sport if it remains split
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:18 pm to Plainview
This is going to end with The Saudis getting what they ultimately wanted: an ownership stake in the PGA Tour and a PGA Tour event in the Middle East.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:54 pm to JimTiger72
quote:
From LIV press conference today:
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:12 pm to Plainview
quote:
Rory. "It sucks not being able to compete against the best players in The world anymore."
Well, his dumb arse should've thought about that before being the PGA's little bitch.
I only watch PGA majors and when LIV isn't on. I rarely recognize the one hit wonders on the leaderboards anymore. Total shite show.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 pm to PureBlood
LIV is a fricking trash product. Couldn’t give any less of a frick about what Figjam has to say about anything. Disingenuous prick
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:56 pm to barbapapa
quote:agree, can't hear the commentary for the music. And no world ranking points. It's like watching Caddyshack 2.
LIV is a fricking trash product.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:59 pm to Plainview
LIV absolutely sucks
The current state of the PGA sucks
The fans lose. Hopefully it ends soon and the result looks more like the PGA than a LIV tournament.
The current state of the PGA sucks
The fans lose. Hopefully it ends soon and the result looks more like the PGA than a LIV tournament.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:35 pm to Swagga
quote:here
The fans lose. Hopefully it ends soon and the result looks more like the PGA than a LIV tournament.
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