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Players vs Game Improvement Irons

Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by RedShirt
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Member since Apr 2005
1046 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:10 pm
I’m 64 and a 7 handicap. I went to G30’s years ago because I figured I was getting older and could use all the game improvement iron characteristics I could get. Today I hit a friends Wilson Staff V2 players irons and man, did they feel sweet. It made me wonder if I’m sacrificing too much by playing the G30’s. Would anyone like to chime in?
Posted by lovethetigers7
Member since Jul 2019
517 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:34 pm to
I am 30 years old and playing to a 10. I got fitted 3 years ago, about the time when the 716 AP2's were popular (played by Spieth, Poulter, Dufner, etc) and mannnnnnnn did I really want them. It was between those and the 2017 Taylormade M1's. I consider myself a pretty decent player, and it was hard to swallow my pride that I just had too many mis-hits with the AP2's. I was puring the M1's and they were a little more forgiving.

I know for sure I can/could work the ball a little more with the AP2's, but that little bit of added forgiveness in the M1's was just too hard to pass up. Also, when you hit the AP2's in the sweet spot, it's ridiculous how good they feel. Argument is if the "sweet" feeling is worth the few extra mis-hits you'll get playing the less forgiving irons.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84947 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:50 pm to
It’s your game and your money. You have to do what makes you enjoy your time on the course most. For some people that’s going as low as possible no matter what and they may sacrifice a little in the feel and looks department. Others go with something a little prettier and feels so good when you nail the center. There’s give and take and a good fitter can find what works best no matter which direction you want to go. But that’s the key to it. Finding a good fitter who can find that best combination for you where it helps your game while still enjoying the looks and feel. Good luck.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:11 pm to
I have decent enough swing speed and ball-striking, and I switched from forged muscle backs 8I through PW and forged cavity backs 3I through 7I to forged cavity backs 7I through PW and cast cavity backs 4I through 6I. I substitute a 3-hybrid or a driving iron depending on the course.

There are trade-offs like anything else, but I think a lot of people would benefit from a mixed set, and even a lot of pros are starting to move to (their version of) a mixed set. Look at Rory's WITB for this year - he's playing anything from a 5 wood to a hybrid to driving iron to a cavity back 4 iron. Go get fitted and/or hit a bunch of models at a range somewhere and figure out what you like.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 5:16 pm
Posted by RedShirt
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Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:14 pm to
Awesome advice. Thanks
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:11 pm to
I've played blades and players irons, back and forth, for the last two yearsish.

The simplest way of saying it- my ceiling seems to be higher with the blades, but my floor is higher with the players irons.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32514 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:39 pm to
I’ve gone back and forth for the last few years. The Srixon 565s seem to be the best of both worlds. Forged but forgiving. Also, I’m 36, and done “working the ball.” I’m learning to hit 1 shot the best I can. When I force trying to hit a draw, my game goes to shite quick. A straight ball is a good thing.
Posted by Eye dentist
Member since Oct 2013
552 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:42 pm to
I'm 57, 5 handicap. Was fitted with Ping G30's which I played with for a year. I didn't like their wide flanges. I did some research and bought p790's, which I really like. I've been fit 3 times, and it's never worked for me. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not recommending against a club fitting. Just suggesting that, if you're a single digit handicap, you could find what you want with some research and demo of different clubs.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

I've been fit 3 times, and it's never worked for me. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not recommending against a club fitting. Just suggesting that, if you're a single digit handicap, you could find what you want with some research and demo of different clubs.


Yea, my experience is that a real-deal fitting isn't nearly as important for irons as it is for woods and especially the driver. If you have the money, go ahead and do it because it can't hurt, but the difference in outcomes from a real fitting vis a vis going to hit some different models with different shaft combinations isn't going to be that big - certainly not nearly as big with a driver.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3502 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

The simplest way of saying it- my ceiling seems to be higher with the blades, but my floor is higher with the players irons.


With the low score being better than the high in golf . . . I can’t tell if you’re statement makes any sense or not
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1865 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 pm to
Really depends on how often you practice and play. Some guys need more sole relief and some benefit from the thicker soles.

I am 64, I play to a 8hcp and I use the G410 irons. I like to hit the ball high and I don't practice much anymore. More importantly I can still hit a 7 iron 160 yards due to the lofts and the forgiveness.

There is a lot of difference in the looks and the sole on the G410 than the G30.

There are lots of great irons out there now. My advice is to go to a driving range demo day and hit different clubs.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6392 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:40 pm to
I’m no where’s near a 6! But, I’m leaning hard towards a set of 565s or 585s. I’m gonna snatch a set off of eBay or 2nd swing though.

Also, looked at the New Level 1126s.... but their local availability is very sparse.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36588 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:38 am to
I am a 86-90 golfer, basically need to quit drinking on the course

I got the JPX 919 hot metal. I’ve gotten about 10 yards more distance from my old hand me downs.

I hate the way other game improvement irons felt with the thick heads. Although the biggest thing for me during the fitting was getting the shaft right
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by Dawgsfan81
Winder, Georgia
Member since Sep 2017
915 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:07 am to
56 and 16 handicap. I have the M4 irons. Love them.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:54 pm to
I'm a 20 handicap and play the new Wilson blades because they feel like butter and I like the trajectory. Most of my strokes are lost off the tee and around the green anyway.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
5406 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:43 am to
+1 for the mixed set. I play forged in 7i-3i and blades for 8, 9 and P. I like the blades for chipping around the greens more so than for their workability as I primarily hit straight shots with a slight natural draw. I’ve found that I’m better off hitting toward the center of greens and relying on my putter more so than trying to work the ball to much because I’ve never been good at controlling the starting point and the amount of bend of the shot very well. Oh and I’m 41 with a 5 hcp
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