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re: Patrick Reed at it again.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:32 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:32 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
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As someone who has never played in a golf event with rules officials following my group, I can only explain this in terms I understand. As a catcher, I framed hundreds of thousands of pitches over my career with the sole purpose of talking an umpire into making a call that he shouldn't. I'd catch the ball, make it look like a strike, and dare the umpire to call it a ball and deal with the reaction from the fans. If it was the third strike and I thought it was close, I'd throw it around before the umpire called it a strike daring him to call it a ball. More times than not, you can get away with a lot of that.
That's basically what Reed did. He may or may not have felt a lip or created a lip, but he called the official over and dared the official to call a top 10 player out on his bullshite, knowing it was never going to happen.
So you and Reed are one and the same
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:19 pm to Choupique19
Yes, to the extent that we were playing different sports. One which encourages sign stealing and pushing the limits of the rules as much as possible, while the other relies "on the spirit of the rules"
Posted on 2/1/21 at 10:30 pm to Choupique19
The people pretending to know his personal life are quite pathetic. Calling him a terrible person because you read on Twitter from a guys friend's wife's girlfriend's Dad that Reed is a pos 
Glass houses FTW
Glass houses FTW
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:14 am to wutangfinancial
Look, I don't know the guy personally. But there are multiple reported stories about him being a terrible person. This isn't Twitter fodder. This is well sourced reporting going back to his days at Georgia and Augusta State all the way through Saturday.
I don't really care if he is a shitty person, tbh. He is good at golf and it's fun to watch. He and the tour should steer into the bully with a bad rep and make him the ultimate villain. They won't, but they should.
I don't really care if he is a shitty person, tbh. He is good at golf and it's fun to watch. He and the tour should steer into the bully with a bad rep and make him the ultimate villain. They won't, but they should.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:31 am to The Johnny Lawrence
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This is well sourced reporting going back to his days at Georgia and Augusta State all the way through Saturday.
goes back to his junior days here in BR too. He was a strange dude, hindsight it was probably his dads fault but he was definitely not a joy to play with
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:47 am to The Johnny Lawrence
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This is well sourced reporting going back to his days at Georgia and Augusta State all the way through Saturday.
This was a lie. Stretching of the truth at least.
Shane Ryan wrote that in his book. It was cited as a source on Pats wiki page. It was fact checked and deemed false so it was removed from his page.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:31 am to BallChamp00
I'm assuming based on your job, etc. and the fact that Reed spent time in BR, you probably know the guy. I went to high school with a guy that has a moderately well known job in town and when he gets talked about on here, the people are mostly wrong. I get the feeling.
I'm just using what information I have available and there is hardly no information that says otherwise. No one really comes out and says anything positive about him.
I'm just using what information I have available and there is hardly no information that says otherwise. No one really comes out and says anything positive about him.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:48 am to The Johnny Lawrence
Yes I know him. Didn’t spend much time with him. Other than being a young cocky player, I haven’t seen anything bad with my exp with him. Now I have two stories I believe are true that paints him to be an arse but these came after Justine. So one has to assume it’s her.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:55 am to The Johnny Lawrence
I just don't understand where the passion comes from on Reed's reputation. The players are the only people who could possibly have enough information to form an opinion. The fans? They're doing their best to be fake outraged and doing their best to cancel him and the media fans the flame.
Bryson is a young cocky player that runs people the wrong way and people treat him completely differently.
Bryson is a young cocky player that runs people the wrong way and people treat him completely differently.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 9:57 am
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:35 am to Choupique19
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He didn’t even have to call for a rules official, and he certainly didn’t have to wait for one to pick his ball up. The rule allows the player to check for themselves.
Actually, he should have called over one of his playing companions over to check to see whether the ball was embedded.
While everyone is on the "honor" system, the guys you are playing with are always your first option. If you disagree, then you call an official. Given Reed's history and reputation, he SHOULD NEVER make such a call all by himself. Neither the fans nor his fellow professionals trust him any longer.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:48 am to wutangfinancial
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Bryson is a young cocky player that runs people the wrong way and people treat him completely differently.
Because he just tries to act smarter than he is.
Reed was caught on camera building sand castles in a bunker.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:49 am to wutangfinancial
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The players are the only people who could possibly have enough information to form an opinion. The fans? They're doing their best to be fake outraged and doing their best to cancel him and the media fans the flame.
And most of the players' quotes after it happened, current and former, were that he was technically within the rules, but the way he handled it was extremely shady.
Nobody is trying to cancel him (whatever that means in this scenario), people are just pointing out that he has a rep as a cheater because HE'S BEEN CAUGHT ON VIDEO CHEATING. Crazy.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:06 am to MMauler
MMauler
He notified his partners prior to lifting the ball. No one came over to check and make sure he was doing it correctly. All of that was shown on the video.
And the video of Rory on 18 shows the same story. He notified his playing partners that he was checking his ball and no one came over to see him as well. AND Rory's ball bounced just like Reed's.
As noted by the head official, Reed didn't have to call over the official, but he did. Rory did not, and he didn't have to do so. Reed went an extra step.
I'm only defending the rules and both players did it the same way. No issue - no problem.
But you're always going to have miserable beeches that commentate.
quote:
Actually, he should have called over one of his playing companions over to check to see whether the ball was embedded.
He notified his partners prior to lifting the ball. No one came over to check and make sure he was doing it correctly. All of that was shown on the video.
And the video of Rory on 18 shows the same story. He notified his playing partners that he was checking his ball and no one came over to see him as well. AND Rory's ball bounced just like Reed's.
As noted by the head official, Reed didn't have to call over the official, but he did. Rory did not, and he didn't have to do so. Reed went an extra step.
I'm only defending the rules and both players did it the same way. No issue - no problem.
But you're always going to have miserable beeches that commentate.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:15 am to BuyloSellhi
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As noted by the head official, Reed didn't have to call over the official, but he did. Rory did not, and he didn't have to do so. Reed went an extra step.
Yes, and that official was surprised that the ball was not in it's original lie, but that Reed had marked and removed the ball from where it landed.
All of the guys (and Dottie) on CBS said it was the wrong way to do it. From Xander Schauffele:
"I mean, he did everything by the book according to the official and everyone stood by there,” said Schauffele, who didn’t search for video of Reed’s situation but heard players talking about it. “Obviously the talk amongst the boys isn’t great, I guess, but he’s protected by the (PGA) Tour and that’s all that matters, I guess.”
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:17 am to BuyloSellhi
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As noted by the head official, Reed didn't have to call over the official, but he did. Rory did not, and he didn't have to do so. Reed went an extra step.
I'm only defending the rules and both players did it the same way. No issue - no problem.
But you're always going to have miserable beeches that commentate.
It's not whether he called an official or not. He moved the ball and then poked and prodded at the ground for a couple minutes. It's not hard to determine if a ball is plugged and it doesn't require an official. So if you pick up your ball, and determine it was plugged, why do you need an official in the first place? To show him the new hole you made?
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:26 am to Big L
quote:This. There was nothing wrong with what he did at all.
Well if they don’t want you to pick it up to check it then make it a penalty to do so. Seems like a smart move by him because he didn’t risk anything. not defending his history but I don’t see an issue here. These guys take full advantage of the rules all the time...sprinkler heads being maybe kinda close to their stance so they get relief and use it as an opportunity to improve the lie...or the power cables, tv towers, giant loose impediments that require 15 guys to move, etc.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:28 am to BuyloSellhi
quote:This is not true. Rory's ball looked to bounce straight up and back into its own mark. Thats a real possibility at least. Reed's bounced forward a few feet and not nearly high enough with enough speed to plug. The NLU guys went back and checked the shots and no other balls went that way all weekend. So it wasn't someone else's pitchmark either. Point being, Reed was definitely lying. Rory, on the other hand, seems to have been right about it being in his own mark. One guys gets the benefit of the doubt based on his history and giving himself WORSE lies when he thought it was too good while the other guy is a known POS.
AND Rory's ball bounced just like Reed's.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:31 am to AlxTgr
quote:By the rules. But the rules are based on the honor code of golf to some extent. This guy obviously doesn't go by that code. I'd call that "wrong" in a way and most golfers would, too. So... "nothing wrong... at all." ain't it.
There was nothing wrong with what he did at all.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:35 am to BuyloSellhi
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He notified his partners prior to lifting the ball. No one came over to check and make sure he was doing it correctly. All of that was shown on the video.
He didn't give them a chance to come over. He told them what he was going to do, and then immediately picked up the ball before they even realized what was going on.
Here is the video.....
The difference between Rory and Reed is that Rory has an impeccable reputation. No one has ever accused him of cheating. He’s never been caught cheating. Rory’s playing partner was right there and could’ve easily have come and checked before Rory picked up the ball but chose not to because he trusted Rory. Reed never gave his playing partners a chance to come and check. And, in hindsight, it looks like Rory’s ball hopped straight up and came down in the same spot it landed. Reed's ball looks like it hopped forward.
Once again, given Reed's past history and reputation, he should never make these calls on his own. Rory has earned the right to do so.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:36 am to ell_13
quote:This is true in the past. What did he do wrong here?
This guy obviously doesn't go by that code. I'd call that "wrong" in a way and most golfers would, too. So... "nothing wrong... at all." ain't it.
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