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Number 4 at Greystone
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:33 am
FINALLY birdied number 4at Greystone! Hate that freaking hole! Who designs a course with a double dogleg par 5.
Wind was kicking. Ended the round with an 88. Not mad at it, been a struggle to break 90 lately!
Hit em straight fellas!!!
Edit: sorry it’s a dogleg right then back left
Wind was kicking. Ended the round with an 88. Not mad at it, been a struggle to break 90 lately!
Hit em straight fellas!!!
Edit: sorry it’s a dogleg right then back left
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:52 am to Puddenn32
I’ve never played greystone before, but every time it’s mentioned on this board someone is complaining about the layout of a hole.
Y’all must really dislike the design
Y’all must really dislike the design
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:04 pm to Puddenn32
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Who designs a course with a double dogleg par 5.
What’s it’s then, a U-turn shaped hole? Why not take a PW and knock it on green for a possible HIO?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:10 pm to Puddenn32
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:00 pm to Swagga
The layout is shown on their website, tried posting link but my phone is acting up.
Big fade off the tee and draw on the second shot to attempt getting there in 2.
Big fade off the tee and draw on the second shot to attempt getting there in 2.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:11 pm to ThatMakesSense
Sorry should have explained, it’s a dogleg right then back left to the green
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:12 pm to Puddenn32
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:07 pm to Swagga
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Y’all must really dislike the design
It's a goofy arse hole.. the layup essentially to the women's tee box because a dry creek runs through the fairway..then you need hit a draw because the creek to the right will swallow a ball ..
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:50 pm to DarkDrifter
It's a true 3 shot hole. Best option play it safe and leave yourself 100 coming in on 3rd shot
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:14 pm to Higgysmalls
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It's a true 3 shot hole. Best option play it safe and leave yourself 100 coming in on 3rd shot
Oh absolutely, I've tried to hit a hard fade off the tee with driver and clear that might as well call it ravine a bunch of times.. I've been successful a handful of times.. most of the time it catches a tree and falls into the creek.
I will say when playing a scramble at Greystone always have a female on the team that has a decent driver ability.. it makes the par 5's a breeze
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:44 pm to DarkDrifter
It’s one of several goofy arse holes at Greystone
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:11 pm to Puddenn32
Here’s a concise summary of the most famous double dogleg par 5s:
1 Bethpage Black, 4th Hole (517 yards, Tillinghast) - A dramatic right-to-left, then left-to-right layout with huge bunkers and an elevated green, iconic from U.S. Opens.
2 Whistling Straits, 5th Hole (603 yards, Dye) - “Snake” twists left, right, then left around water, famous from the Ryder Cup with Lake Michigan views.
3 San Francisco Golf Club, 7th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - A subtle right-then-left design with trees and bunkers, revered by golf purists.
4 TPC Sawgrass, 11th Hole (558 yards, Dye) - Bends left then right with water hazards, a strategic star of The Players Championship.
5 Shawnee Inn, 13th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - An early double dogleg (right, then left) with historical significance as Tillinghast’s first design.
These holes blend strategic complexity, hazards, and memorable moments, with Tillinghast and Dye dominating the form.
1 Bethpage Black, 4th Hole (517 yards, Tillinghast) - A dramatic right-to-left, then left-to-right layout with huge bunkers and an elevated green, iconic from U.S. Opens.
2 Whistling Straits, 5th Hole (603 yards, Dye) - “Snake” twists left, right, then left around water, famous from the Ryder Cup with Lake Michigan views.
3 San Francisco Golf Club, 7th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - A subtle right-then-left design with trees and bunkers, revered by golf purists.
4 TPC Sawgrass, 11th Hole (558 yards, Dye) - Bends left then right with water hazards, a strategic star of The Players Championship.
5 Shawnee Inn, 13th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - An early double dogleg (right, then left) with historical significance as Tillinghast’s first design.
These holes blend strategic complexity, hazards, and memorable moments, with Tillinghast and Dye dominating the form.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:17 pm to double d
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Big fade off the tee and draw on the second shot to attempt getting there in 2.
I’ve never seen anyone come close to that from the black or gold tees.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:18 pm to FieldEngineer
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I’ve never seen anyone come close to that from the black or gold tees.
It's not impossible but it's not easy.. it's just hitting the perfect fade that carries around 250ish yards From the Golds ... Never played the tips there.. My most successful attempts have been really low stinging shots.. normally by accident of course
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:44 pm to FieldEngineer
Cody Maxwell has an albatross on that hole.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:06 am to Swagga
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Y’all must really dislike the design
It's unique in that it's a target course. Probably the only one in the area where you have to hit areas as opposed to just hitting good shots. I still think 4 should be a par 4 and move the tee box up a bit and move the boxes back on 5 for the par 5.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:24 am to ell_13
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Cody Maxwell has an albatross on that hole.
I’m not in the same league. It’s usually a bogey at best for me, double or triple if I lose a ball in the woods or canal. I’ve birdied it once with an excellent one putt, and made par just a handful of times.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:33 am to FieldEngineer
Only time I really attempt getting there in 2 is in scrambles. From the gold, most people don’t realize how much you have to cut it to get a good chance at the green. Cody, of course, can hit just about any shot from anywhere though.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:50 am to double d
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he layout is shown on their website, tried posting link but my phone is acting up.
Big fade off the tee and draw on the second shot to attempt getting there in 2.
Last time I played there hit the most beautiful fade I've ever hit around that first corner, then tried to get fancy and hit a draw to the pin... ball didn't draw at all and pushed straight in to the big ditch on the right.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:43 am to ell_13
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Here’s a concise summary of the most famous double dogleg par 5s:
1 Bethpage Black, 4th Hole (517 yards, Tillinghast) - A dramatic right-to-left, then left-to-right layout with huge bunkers and an elevated green, iconic from U.S. Opens.
2 Whistling Straits, 5th Hole (603 yards, Dye) - “Snake” twists left, right, then left around water, famous from the Ryder Cup with Lake Michigan views.
3 San Francisco Golf Club, 7th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - A subtle right-then-left design with trees and bunkers, revered by golf purists.
4 TPC Sawgrass, 11th Hole (558 yards, Dye) - Bends left then right with water hazards, a strategic star of The Players Championship.
5 Shawnee Inn, 13th Hole (570 yards, Tillinghast) - An early double dogleg (right, then left) with historical significance as Tillinghast’s first design.
These holes blend strategic complexity, hazards, and memorable moments, with Tillinghast and Dye dominating the form.
OK. I think my post history will show that I that I used to absolutely hate the layout at Greystone, but now I'm more apathetic to the layout. Once you get a handle on the preferred lines, it becomes manageable. With that said, 4 is a stupid hole and it is borderline indefensible. But it is surely indefensible with the list above. Below are screenshots of the holes mentioned:
Bethpage Black 4th Hole:
Whistline Straits 5th Hole:
San Francisco Golf - Couldn't Find
TPC Sawgrass 11th Hole:
Shawnee Inn 13th Hole:
Greystone 4th Hole:
The majority of the double doglegs you posted are borderline straight with small bends in the fairway around bunkers. Greystone 4 is almost two right angles. The only comparison in your list is the 5th at Whistling Straits. The difference is that there is no trees, so you can cut the corners. It also doesn't take driver out of your hand.
I don't mind one quirky hole. I don't mind when the golf course takes driver out of my hand. Greystone's issue is that it has multiple quirky holes and multiple holes that driver not only isn't the best option but isn't an option at all.
I don't think anyone should defend Greystone with cites to Golden Age architecture. Call it quirky, call it a good local course with good vibes and cool people, call it affordable golf, call it a good hang, call it the best course in Denham Springs. The course is a lot of things and can be fun to play, but it isn't architecturally sound. Hell, the most interesting par 3 on the course has a green that is built 180* backwards lol.
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