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re: LIV Reapplies for OWGR Recognition

Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:46 am to
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:46 am to
I’m watching the LIV Spain on TV right now and I just found out from reading this thread that I’m not actually watching a real tournament. The things you learn on this board!
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Have you looked at the Scottish Open leaderboard today?


McIlroy, Scheffler, Schauffle, Aberg, Straka, Rose, Fitzpatrick, and Hovland all in the top 12 coming down the stretch…... Seems solid.
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:57 pm to
Yes obviously not your typical DP Tour event…

This was the original comment that was replied to
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Their fields are stronger than all dp world events

I would say most not all
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15398 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:04 pm to
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If OWGR caves on this, they will lose a ton of credibility.


Credibility?! Rahm is obviously a top 10 player in the world, maybe top 5. He’s ranked 68th on OWGR.

They’ve already lost credibility.
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Only way they get this approved, is if the right people got a lot of money to give LIV OWGR standing.

Or maybe LIV will change their format & address the issues OWGR had with their original application
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:52 pm to
That was exactly my point
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:53 pm to
What’s up with the Niemann spat on here?

He might not be “top 10” but you can definitely argue he might be.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:11 pm to
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That was exactly my point


Ah yeah, I see that. Sorry, was just skimming and was like wtf.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37644 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:57 pm to
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JimTiger72



Dude, you’re the Baghdad Bob of LIV. Hope you’re on their payroll.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55738 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Let’s say they have a guy on a 100 million dollar guaranteed contract that falls in relegation. In what universe would anyone believe they would actually relegate that player? Thats why it’s a farce to call it a “tour”. It’s not


So…basically a sponsors exemption? Agreed. No tour would allow that.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30187 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 6:57 am to
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tried to do the past 2-3 years is mimick a Tour that you claim isn't a tour.

How exactly did the PGA Tour mimick LIV?

If you google it, it says PGA went to smaller fields and increased purses and player impact program, and focus in top players. That's the claim to fame that the PGA mimicked LIV? That's the claim?

Edit
Don't downvots, answer the question.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:31 am to
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So…basically a sponsors exemption? Agreed. No tour would allow that.
This is why yall look like clowns

Tell me the time the PGA tour have a player 14 guaranteed sponsors exemptions for a year
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18321 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:06 am to
Or gave the player a 100 million dollar contract.

Absolutely asinine argument.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15398 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:21 am to
Who exactly are we talking about in this hypothetical?

Ian Poulter, Henrik, or Westwood?
Kevin Na?

With only 3 LIV events remaining those are the only “big money” guys that are in danger of relegation. Phil has talked about the possibility of being a non-playing captain for his team if needed in the future. They would all probably do something similar.

I would assume most of these guys original contracts are up so they may include a relegation clause in the next contract.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:41 am to
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a field to what?

there isn't a tournament happening.


What exactly is the angle here? Anything less than 72 holes is not a tournament these days?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:56 am to
It’s definitely a tournament. But it’s a “tour” pretty much exclusively built on invitations

I don’t know how as an organization that is responsible for ranking people can give points without opening Pandora’s box

I’m sure Fowler , Spieth , JT etc would love to have started their own invitational circuit 5 years ago. Would have helped their ranking. You can’t have rankings without a complete open system. LIV just doesn’t have that, not even close
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Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Swagga
504
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:06 pm to
So from less golf for more money to playing 35 events on a global tour? I can’t imagine guys being on board with that. Insane amount of travel.


I may not understand what Phil is trying to say here.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15398 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:11 pm to
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I may not understand what Phil is trying to say here.

Well I thought it was obvious that he’s not saying that he or most LIV guys would be playing every week outside of the 12 LIV/signature events.

Not sure why you went straight to that. Scottie & Rory don’t play 35 events
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5286 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:12 pm to
The ratings for non-elevated LIV events would be amazing
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15398 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:13 pm to
In the US?

What are the ratings in US for a normal DP Tour event?

Man, y'all are terrible at using your brain.

Does Colt Knost post here?
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