re: It amazes me how many tournament hopes die on hole twelve at Augusta

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Yet the best players in the world continuously hit it in the water there year after year. Maybe there's a little more to it than just a "stock 9 iron."

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Nah, it’s a breather hole. They just must not have the tummy for it

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Honestly I thought Smith completely mishit his tee shot on 17 in the Players he just got lucky as shite and his mishit was right at the flag.

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I thought the same when he hit it on 17. It was the same miss. He got lucky at TPC because he was going left of the hole. At Augusta he was trying to attack that pin and a miss right was dead.

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It’s a stock 9 iron, there isn’t a club pro I know that can’t hit that shot in their sleep

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I get what you are saying. No professional is going to look at that distance and say “no that’s too hard im going to hit it in the bunker ”

They are going to think they can hit that number and then I really think the wind screws them. They said 12 is the lowest elevation spot the course so you can’t feel or judge the wind properly on the ground. When the green is 20 yards deep a slight shift in wind will make or break you.

That’s why victor hovlands low shot was working so well

Cam Smith is one of us. He plays hero golf and I freaking love it. Also can be chaotic off the tee.

Greg Norman was faltering but the wheels came off there against Faldo

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green angle for righthanders

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This is the main issue (aside from the wind) in my mind. A slight miss to the right may be pin high, but it ends up in the water because there is no forgiveness on the slope.

Th shaved slope also plays into it as well, as the mind sees ground but that ground is actually a ball that ends up in the water.