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How do you give/get strokes?

Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:38 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12599 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:38 am
I’ve heard some pretty heated discussions over how this should work. Once saw guys come to blows at the end of a high stakes round. Old man wanted all 5 of his strokes pretty bad.

Let’s say I’m giving a guy 5 strokes:

Scenario 1: he basically starts off the round at -5.

Scenario 2: he gets one stroke on each of 5 lowest handicapped holes.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1890 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:40 am to
Should be a stroke on the 5 top handicap holes.
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
4857 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:41 am to
We always use scenario 2 based off the course handicap. He should get 1 stroke on each of the 5 hardest holes. That's technically the correct way to give strokes.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16326 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Scenario 2: he gets one stroke on each of 5 lowest handicapped holes.


This is more typical.

In general, don’t play with disparate handicaps.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54476 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:12 am to
You would be giving him a stroke on the 5 hardest holes on the course OR you could give him 2.5 per side.

Take the two hardest holes on the front and he gets a stroke and then a 1/2 stroke on the third hardest hole.

Then, you can bet the front, back and overall.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4684 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:16 am to
if i am playing him in match play i dot the 5 hardest holes. if i am playing stroke play then it doesn't matter....i just subtract 5 strokes from his gross
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32764 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:31 am to
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Once saw guys come to blows at the end of a high stakes round. Old man wanted all 5 of his strokes pretty bad.


This should never happen. Terms are discussed before the first ball is struck. After that, it’s a dogfight on the course.

There’s nothing to talk about after the round other than who is buying the first round.
Hint: it’s me. Then, I’m enjoying my friendly beers until it’s my turn again.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63989 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:56 am to
Does it matter if it's stroke play?

If it's match play, then scenario 2 for sure.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5872 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

How do you give/get strokes?

Gayyy
quote:

Let’s say I’m giving a guy 5 strokes
quote:

by BabyTac

Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12545 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Does it matter if it's stroke play?

If it's match play, then scenario 2 for sure.


Really, it shouldn't matter in match play because it doesn't make any sense to say someone is starting at -5 in match play.

The real debate should be whether it makes more sense to 0 out the lower handicap or give both players all of their strokes and the holes with a difference would be where strokes are given.

Example: Golfer A has a course handicap of 10. Golfer B has a course handicap of 15.

Option 1: Golfer B is getting strokes on index holes 1-5
Option 2: Golfer B is getting strokes on index holes 11-15

I know 95% of the time, people use Option 1, but I have heard arguments for Option 2 making more sense. For instance, if there was a huge skins game with a group with multiple tee times, Option 2 would be used. So, the argument is it should be used with any number of players.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 12:41 pm
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9388 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Should be a stroke on the 5 top handicap holes.


This should be the proper way.

But I have seen it backfire big time as well in skin games.

In our group of eight we use to have a guy that was a legit 20hcp. But he was a long hitter who could get lucky and hit a par 5 in two and either 1 or 2 putt and win big.
Posted by Guzzlingil
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2003
2037 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:34 pm to
#2...but it depends upon what your hdcp is.
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
4024 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

he gets one stroke on each of 5 lowest handicapped holes
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3535 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Scenario 1: he basically starts off the round at -5.

Scenario 2: he gets one stroke on each of 5 lowest handicapped holes.


Well the answer only depends on if you're playing matchplay or strokeplay

USGA provides guidelines on handicapping LINK
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12545 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

USGA provides guidelines on handicapping


Thanks for that link. That was pretty interesting. I am the one to organize our games on annual golf trips. I am not sure why, but I never thought about looking into percentages. We do a lot of Ryder Cups. I guess we should've been doing 90% caps this entire time.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
10264 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Should be a stroke on the 5 top handicap holes.


This.

In a match play format, it may not help you if several of the top HC holes are on the back nine.

That is, if you’re getting 5 strokes and top HC holes 1, 3, 4 & 5 are on the back with only the 2nd toughest hole on the front.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5166 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 4:07 pm to
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That is, if you’re getting 5 strokes and top HC holes 1, 3, 4 & 5 are on the back with only the 2nd toughest hole on the front.


This would never happen. All odd number handicap holes are on the front 9 and all even number handicap holes are on the back 9. They're set for that specific reason
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3439 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:01 pm to
I never noticed this but just looked at my card from today and damn you are 100% correct for my course.
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