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re: Girl in US Junior Am goes full Suzann Pettersen on her opponent
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:31 am to unbeWEAVEable
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:31 am to unbeWEAVEable
quote:It's this.
By rule, because she moved that ball before the putt was conceded, it's a penalty. Not to mention, you cannot concede the putt after the fact. The more I think about it, the more I think it was a lapse in judgement on Moon more than an unsportsmanlike like move on the winner.
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:01 pm to lsu13lsu
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I would like to have a little more context. How were these same putts handled all day? Anyone know? If they have been given all day or tournament then it is pretty crappy she did that.
A lot of times in match play opponents will give lengthy putts in the 3'-4' range and then all of the sudden make their opponent mark and putt out a 2 footer just to screw with their head. It's a part of match play.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:04 pm to reggo75
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A lot of times in match play opponents will give lengthy putts in the 3'-4' range and then all of the sudden make their opponent mark and putt out a 2 footer just to screw with their head. It's a part of match play.
I agree. I just wish the entire story was told. How was it going the entire day and did she pull that move cold blooded? What if the entire day no one was giving anyone anything?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:40 pm to lsu13lsu
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did she pull that move cold blooded?
She didn't even have time to concede the putt.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:54 pm to Golfer
Moon is definitely at fault, because she left no time for her opponent to concede. What irked me was the manner of how the winner acted after the incident. She came off as childish after Moon picked up the put and looked bad during her interview as well.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:10 pm to FultonReed
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What irked me was the manner of how the winner acted after the incident. She came off as childish
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US Junior Am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:22 pm to Golfer
She immediately called her out on it. She didn't have time to know whether judges were going to call it either. She immediately called foul. Which if they had been giving each other putts all day would have been cold blooded but well within the rules.
All I am saying is it would have been nice to know how they handled putts all day. Not for rules sake but for a better story.
All I am saying is it would have been nice to know how they handled putts all day. Not for rules sake but for a better story.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:44 pm to lsu13lsu
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She immediately called her out on it.
Moon pulls the putt back as the damn ball is stopping. She looks back at her caddie who says "did you give it to her" then she calls Moon on the breach. Not sure what else she's to do if Moon yanked the putt back that quickly.
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She didn't have time to know whether judges were going to call it either
In match play, the rules official is only there to interpret rulings. Your opponent is the one to make sure rules violations are called. There's no other field to protect during a regular event.
Just curious, have you ever played in a match play tournament?
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:23 pm to lsu13lsu
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All I am saying is it would have been nice to know how they handled putts all day. Not for rules sake but for a better story.
Normally, I would agree with you. However, the one thing that stops this argument dead in its tracks is the fact that they were in extra holes. Doesn't matter how putts were handled all day, that all goes out the window when there are zero holes left that can be used as a buffer.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:59 am to Golfer
I don't know why you keep going back to rules or trying to prove you have more match play experience than me (which you do). I just think if there is footage of 18 holes of each girl properly asking for concession then she sweeps that one, it changes the narrative. If there are 18 holes of them both sweeping without asking them even if blonde is right it still seems pretty ice cold.
The story just seems incomplete and they have the footage. The entire story is how she won on that so the previous handlings seem important at least to me.
The story just seems incomplete and they have the footage. The entire story is how she won on that so the previous handlings seem important at least to me.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 6:18 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:03 am to unbeWEAVEable
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Doesn't matter how putts were handled all day, that all goes out the window when there are zero holes left that can be used as a buffer.
It doesn't matter how they were handled all day anyway per the rules. But it would be nice to know how they were handled. The story just felt incomplete for me. What if all day the blond was making her ask. Then this is a non-story. That is my point. The media may have twisted this to make it a story.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:50 am to lsu13lsu
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The media may have twisted this to make it a story.
I understand why you're asking, but I doubt this is the answer.
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What if all day the blond was making her ask.
I know you want to know how putts were conceded or not all day, but rules or not as someone with a lot of match play experience, it doesn't matter. Moon was not in the moment, and she made an error. That's match play. Never assume.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:17 pm to golfntiger32
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If my daughter did that shite we would be WD ing. In the interview you can almost tell she was baiting the other girl into that, by the way she says well I guess I still won. No sportsmanship period.
What the hell were you watching? What exactly should she have done in the split second that the girl misses the putt and drags it back?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:20 am to lsu13lsu
quote:What move did she pull?
How was it going the entire day and did she pull that move cold blooded?
How is this even a discussion?
It's not like she gave the chick a nod and then claimed she was nodding at someone in the stands. Moon fricking raked her putt damn near before it stopped moving
She 100% deserved that penalty stroke. Other chick did nothing malicious.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:21 am to FultonReed
quote:No she didn't
She came off as childish after Moon picked up the put and looked bad during her interview as well.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:25 am to lsu13lsu
quote:What?
If there are 18 holes of them both sweeping without asking them
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