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Another Major winner, another player with no blades in their bag

Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:51 am
Rahm has 4-pw with Calloway TCB

It baffles me that I have friends that refuse to give their blades up and they most certainly aren't scratch golfers and even then it doesn't make much sense.
Posted by MizunoDude
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 11:14 am to
All depends on what you are comfortable: looking at, swinging and feel.

I learned on blades. I tried a set of cavity backs, even had the Ping i59's, i230, Callaway Apex 19 Pro and M4 irons. Some clubs just don't look right behind the ball. Some I just don't think I can get the toe through the ball.

I couldn't play any of them and score. Put Cobra RF blades in the bag and shot -1, even and +2.

Carry a 2.7 HDCP.

I can play any irons, just can't trust or score with some.

But, different strokes for different folks.

IMHO
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 11:26 am to
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I couldn't play any of them and score


Well thats a mental issue, which I guess I can understand, but physically, you can.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:25 pm to
TCBs are still musclebacks right? It’s not shocking because he doesn’t try and hit all 9 windows from what I’ve observed and he sticks with his fade.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:50 am to
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TCBs are still musclebacks right? It’s not shocking because he doesn’t try and hit all 9 windows from what I’ve observed and he sticks with his fade.


Not to be a dick, but what do you think the CB in TCB stands for
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:22 am to
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All depends on what you are comfortable: looking at, swinging and feel.



Eh, not really. It also depends on if you are a good golfer or not and want to actually improve your game

John Rahm not using blades doesn't really prove any point because plenty of pros don't use blades, that's nothing new.

But it does not make any sense for a golfer that can't shape the ball to use blades. They are less forgiving, that really can't be argued. If you're not striking the ball very consistently, there's not a real benefit for you to use them. There are clubs that are much much more forgiving that would benefit certain players that are using blades.

I played Mizuno blades for years and loved them, but I'm not as good as I once was so I switched. The JPX tour I use set up almost identical to the blades. They look and feel almost identical but they are just a better iron for my game. I'm still a low handicap, it would be even worse for someone with a higher handicap to be using blades.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:34 am to
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ohn Rahm not using blades doesn't really prove any point because plenty of pros don't use blades, that's nothing new.


I know, but its becoming more and more common as pro's realize they can get more forgiveness and still be able to do everything they could before.

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But it does not make any sense for a golfer that can't shape the ball to use blades.


This is also the biggest horse-shite excuse of all time

1) The amount of times you need to dramatically shape your iron shots is incredibly low for any given round.
2) you can shape shots with any CB and its within feet of a blade shaping a shot. There are countless youtube videos showing this.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:06 pm to
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This is also the biggest horse-shite excuse of all time


Well you're taking this way too seriously. I was agreeing with with you doofus.

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1) The amount of times you need to dramatically shape your iron shots is incredibly low for any given round.


What does that matter? If you're a pro and can shape it, and blades are the best thing for it, then use them. One course they might not need to much, another they will. Have you never played a course with doglegs in different directions?

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2) you can shape shots with any CB and its within feet of a blade shaping a shot. There are countless youtube videos showing this.


Where did I say you can't?
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:23 pm to
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Well you're taking this way too seriously. I was agreeing with with you doofus.


Thats just the way i type on TD, im angry guy. Also it was general statements that blade stans make, it wasn't directed at you, i know you agree.



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If you're a pro and can shape it, and blades are the best thing for it, then use them


because the others are more forgiving
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5254 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:25 pm to
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1) The amount of times you need to dramatically shape your iron shots is incredibly low for any given round.


Moving it up and down is easier with a blade due to the CG location. That's the reason a lot of players use blades in their scoring irons and CB in the longer irons.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:29 pm to
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Thats just the way i type on TD, im angry guy. Also it was general statements that blade stans make, it wasn't directed at you, i know you agree.




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because the others are more forgiving


Sure. But if you're a pro, you're hitting the sweet spot over and over. That's what she said. They have less need of forgiveness than an amateur does, especially over someone who is 5 and up handicap.

I think it's cool they are winning without blades, but i definitely see why top tier guys still use blades. But honestly, there can't be too many mid-high handicap guys buying blades. I can't tell you the last time I played with someone who had blades other than my brother in law who had some hand me downs. And I made him look for some new clubs asap. Kid was learning how to play with blades
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:50 pm to
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I think it's cool they are winning without blades, but i definitely see why top tier guys still use blades.


Oh i have no problem with pro's using blades. I just think amateurs convinced themselves.

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I can't tell you the last time I played with someone who had blades other than my brother in law who had some hand me downs. And I made him look for some new clubs asap. Kid was learning how to play with blades


Maybe it is just the older crowd, yikes i can't believe id consider myself the older crowd, that still uses them because they learned on blades.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4633 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 1:18 pm to
I played blades all through HS and college and the first few years I was a pro. I didn't play anything else until Titleist came out with the first iteration of the DCI and they "strongly suggested" all their staff guys play them. Gave up my Tour Models to play them.

Golf club aesthetics have always been important to me; it has to look appealing to me for me to trust it. The DCIs were the first club I played that didn't fit my eye and I hated them. I was very happy when the DCI 962 irons came out. If I was still playing fulltime today, I'd probably be gaming the TaylorMade P770.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33944 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 1:20 pm to
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The amount of times you need to dramatically shape your iron shots is incredibly low for any given round

I’ve given up. I just want it to go straight.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:39 pm to
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2) you can shape shots with any CB and its within feet of a blade shaping a shot. There are countless youtube videos showing this.



So you're saying somebody like JT doesn't even get a benefit? That seems hard to believe with how data driven these teams are now.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:22 pm to
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So you're saying somebody like JT doesn't even get a benefit? That seems hard to believe with how data driven these teams are now.



The very small benefit granted its professionals and 1 yard matters sometimes, isn't worth it vs the forgiveness on mishits.

I understand there are some ELITE ballstrikers, that it may just not apply to, but there are probably less than 50 of those on the planet.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Golf club aesthetics have always been important to me; it has to look appealing to me for me to trust it. The DCIs were the first club I played that didn't fit my eye and I hated them. I was very happy when the DCI 962 irons came out. If I was still playing fulltime today, I'd probably be gaming the TaylorMade P770.


I think this is just one part of golf that i never understood that applies to some people. I'm an engineer at heart, so i have a very utilitarian view of these things and as long as i know its the right piece of equipment, i don't care what it looks like at address.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4164 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
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I played Mizuno blades for years and loved them... The JPX tour I use set up almost identical to the blades

I had the "opposite" experience. Played Mizuno blades (MP60s) for 15 years. Went to get fit for new irons and was positive that they would put me in the JPX line. I'm only an 8-9 and heading to my 60's, but I hit the ball better, and had better numbers across the board, with the blades (MP20s).

Don't think you can just throw a blanket statement out there. Brooks played the JPX irons before switching to Srizon. Pros, ams, doesn't matter. It's an individual thing.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4633 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:22 am to
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I think this is just one part of golf that i never understood that applies to some people. I'm an engineer at heart, so i have a very utilitarian view of these things and as long as i know its the right piece of equipment, i don't care what it looks like at address.


I get this; my brother is an engineer as well, so I understand your thinking here. The interesting part to me is my aesthetics importance in a golf club only applies to my irons. With woods and putters I take the utilitarian approach. But irons and wedges have to fit my eye.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11677 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:09 am to
This thread is making me feel really dumb for not having at least long iron JPXs instead of my MPs
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