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re: XBOX restructuring; laying off 3,200, spinning off some studios, no games canceled
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:28 am to Carson123987
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:28 am to Carson123987
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The reason it failed was because of Day 1 Gamepass
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If tweet fails to load, click here. when i read this Tweet, this is what I see in my head...

Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:25 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:38 am to stout
I've seen that tweet. It's not accurate. Microsoft applied for something like 3,700 H-1B visas across the company, not just XBOX.
The announced layoffs don't just affect US companies so the claim that they're laying off "3,200 Americans" is also false.
I agree with the overall spirit about H-1B visas and am excited about the Trump admin investigating H-1B visa fraud, but that tweet is just completely false in its claims. Putting out obviously false stuff only hurts the argument.
The announced layoffs don't just affect US companies so the claim that they're laying off "3,200 Americans" is also false.
I agree with the overall spirit about H-1B visas and am excited about the Trump admin investigating H-1B visa fraud, but that tweet is just completely false in its claims. Putting out obviously false stuff only hurts the argument.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:44 am to finchmeister08
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when i read this Tweet, this is what I see in my head...
I think for that sort of thing they're going to need to lock in subscriptions for longer instead of "cancel whenever you want." Maybe that's a change they're looking into.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:36 am to imjustafatkid
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Underlying Game Pass’s problem was a central flaw, according to the people. While consumers might be willing to pay a monthly fee to Netflix Inc. to stream thousands of TV shows and movies, most gamers don’t take the same approach, preferring to stick with a handful of favorite games they play on repeat. Research from Circana shows that the majority of US gamers buy two games at most per year and a third of the market doesn’t even purchase one.
This is probably the first clear articulation of why game streaming is not the same as video streaming. People simply don't play as many different games as they watch different TV shows and movies.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:38 am to imjustafatkid
so Game Pass will turn into service contracts like gym memberships or a cell phone services.
i don't know if people enjoy gaming that much.
they might, but i was one of those that had a free month of Game Pass and used it to play the BLOPS 6 campaign. cancelled it when i was done.
i don't know if people enjoy gaming that much.
they might, but i was one of those that had a free month of Game Pass and used it to play the BLOPS 6 campaign. cancelled it when i was done.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:44 am to Carson123987
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People simply don't play as many different games as they watch different TV shows and movies
Well, a game like Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 takes literally months to playthrough. I'm not gonna give up the precious hours I have to actually play by putting whatever hijinks I'm up to with Henry on pause to go download and start something new.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:44 am to imjustafatkid
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I've seen that tweet. It's not accurate. Microsoft applied for something like 3,700 H-1B visas across the company, not just XBOX.
The announced layoffs don't just affect US companies so the claim that they're laying off "3,200 Americans" is also false.
Thanks for clarifying
There should be a law that says any company thas mass layoffs of Americans can not file for H1B for 5 years, and if they had filed for up to 5 years prior, those H1Bs are the first out the door before any American
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:23 pm to stout
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There should be a law that says any company that has mass layoffs of Americans can not file for H1B for 5 years, and if the had filed for up to 5 years prior, those H1Bs are the first out the door before any American
Completely agree with this. It's a real problem that needs to be fixed.
I'd prefer we totally end the H-1B program. Especially now that all those people have to do is get knocked up and have a kid and then we're stuck with them for life.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:38 pm to imjustafatkid
Tis was a great move for Xbox, they had a lot of studios, who were working 8 years on games and they were garbage. Absolute shitting money away.
Doom and ID cuts hurt, but ID will become a helper studio, to help others finish the big stuff.
zero reason to be making more shite games, stick to the games that make you money, not this bullshite.
Fallout
TES
etc
Supposedly Xbox cracked the whip at bethesda, and said enough of this 20 people ladders for stuff, you have 2-3 people as heads and rest are workers. YOu have an idea, it goes to 2-3 people, not 17 chains of commands, like they had. Former bethesda peeps claimed it was a joke, it could take a month to get your stuff to some one who could actually do something, and it's 2 late. etc
Doom and ID cuts hurt, but ID will become a helper studio, to help others finish the big stuff.
zero reason to be making more shite games, stick to the games that make you money, not this bullshite.
Fallout
TES
etc
Supposedly Xbox cracked the whip at bethesda, and said enough of this 20 people ladders for stuff, you have 2-3 people as heads and rest are workers. YOu have an idea, it goes to 2-3 people, not 17 chains of commands, like they had. Former bethesda peeps claimed it was a joke, it could take a month to get your stuff to some one who could actually do something, and it's 2 late. etc
Posted on 7/10/26 at 11:39 pm to imjustafatkid
Game Pass is a great deal for consumers but it was never a sustainable model as is. Look for more changes and prices increases to come. I could easily see $20 per month for basic service coming within a year.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 10:24 am to stlslick
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If tweet fails to load, click here. id Software doesn't appear to be concerned about the layoffs crippling them, as was rumored.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 6:17 pm to CornDogCologne
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Sounds like id software got heavily gutted during this round of layoffs.
As a huge fan of Doom this concerns me.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 6:20 pm to geauxtigers87
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if you asked 100 people if you liked doom 2016 doom eternal and doom dark ages it'd prob be 40 40 20. dark ages was not great, but the dlc looks good to be fair
So
Was disappointed in the dark ages.
Then I got the DLC and now gameplay wise, it’s the funnest doom ever made. It’s fricking bad arse.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 8:26 pm to thermal9221
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As a huge fan of Doom this concerns me.
id put out a tweet basically saying they're back to the size they were when they made Doom 2016.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 8:51 am to imjustafatkid
Ahh I see now.
Ok cool.
Ok cool.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:10 am to BCLA
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Well, a game like Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 takes literally months to playthrough. I'm not gonna give up the precious hours I have to actually play by putting whatever hijinks I'm up to with Henry on pause to go download and start something new.
I can see your POV. Where gamepass works for me is I have three people using it. Myself and my two kids. It's great for that. My two kids burn through some games while I take my time on something else (Subnautica 2, at the moment). There are lots of kids games on Gamepass that are $10-20 each on Steam. PC gamepass is a good deal for my household.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:41 am to imjustafatkid
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id Software doesn't appear to be concerned about the layoffs crippling them, as was rumored.
Yeah I'm sure a PR fluff statement is reflective of their confidence and that morale is great and things are dandy over there
Don't bitch when Id gets shuttered after the next Doom game is in UE5 and doesn't do well because of a massive reduction in scale/scope from the 2 recent entries.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:55 am to Carson123987
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Yeah I'm sure a PR fluff statement is reflective of their confidence and that morale is great and things are dandy over there It's not just about the quantity of team members left, it's about the tenure/experience of those cut. They lost a ton of very senior guys on the engine, art, and production sides. Losing 70% of your team is one thing, but losing 70% of the team and continuing with junior, less experienced guys is another. Some very big, very decorated names were cut. The Doom 2016 team is mostly gone
Don't bitch when Id gets shuttered after the next Doom game is in UE5 and doesn't do well because of a massive reduction in scale/scope from the 2 recent entries.
They didn't shut down id Tech. Those original rumors were incorrect. LINK
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While earlier claims said only one person is left on the id Tech engine team in Texas, Microsoft has said this is false. “There are dozens of people working on id Tech across multiple locations,” a spokesperson for Xbox confirmed. “Reports that there’s only one person left in Texas are inaccurate.”
id Software isn't getting shut down.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:06 am to imjustafatkid
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They didn't shut down id Tech. Those original rumors were incorrect
It's the best and most optimized engine on the market because they committed such massive in-house resources to it. The "dozens of people across multiple locations" comment is referring to other Zenimax teams working on it alongside the Id skeleton crew going forward. While it may not get outright shelved, it will be nearly impossible to iterate upon it at the same level of optimization and innovation.
And lets not forget the additional round of layoffs later this year...

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