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re: Why can't Nintendo just make an appropriate amount of consoles at launch?

Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:02 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:02 am to
If serious I'll put you at 2 in line. I just made an offer though. I have to give him some time to accept or decline
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:04 am to
You can take me off the list. I'm not looking into buying at the moment
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:07 am to
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It's how they artificially inflate demand
people who say this have never had to sit down and think "how many of x should we make"

people who say this (and not just about Nintendo)are just so far off base. every company will try and strike equilibrium meaning make something, sell something, nothing on shelves or in a distribution warehouse adding to your inventory. (unless we're talking about products where items on the shelves serve as the advertisement, but this isn't that)



Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:14 am to
I don't know, but it was easy as heck pre-ordering the PS4. You didn't have be awake at 4:00 AM jamming F5 on the Amazon.com home page.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:22 am to
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I don't know, but it was easy as heck pre-ordering the PS4. You didn't have be awake at 4:00 AM jamming F5 on the Amazon.com home page.


Exactly.

And the ps4 launch by estimates had 3 times as many sold. 250k to 80k in the UK. I don't think other numbers are out yet.

I just don't understand them. Maybe they didn't expect the demand but it isn't like it is very high demand.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:36 am to
no question that you'd rather underestimate than overestimate and that for a brief window that scarcity gets buzz, but you only have x amount of time to sell y, and you want to sell as many of them as possible.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:09 pm to
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I don't know, but it was easy as heck pre-ordering the PS4. You didn't have be awake at 4:00 AM jamming F5 on the Amazon.com home page.

Sony also staggered the launch though. By focusing on fewer regions, I think they were able to get a better handle of the stock situation.
Posted by Das Jackal
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:19 pm to
Walked into Target and picked one up this morning with Zelda. They had just received 9 more today..guess I lucked out.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:59 am to
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Exactly.

And the ps4 launch by estimates had 3 times as many sold. 250k to 80k in the UK. I don't think other numbers are out yet.

I just don't understand them. Maybe they didn't expect the demand but it isn't like it is very high demand.


Nintendo has said it's first 2 day sales surpassed the Wii's first 2 in America. I guess I can understand some of the shortages here now.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:24 am to
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And the ps4 launch by estimates had 3 times as many sold. 250k to 80k in the UK. I don't think other numbers are out yet.


Pretty sure that is first week sales for PS4 compared to weekend sales for Switch.

Also, as others have noted, the PS4 launched at different times in different regions while the Switch had a global launch.

And the PS4 released shortly before Holiday season, so sales would be inflated. Sony probably planned this and made sure they had enough units. Nintendo also could have done this, but then I wouldn't have been playing on my Switch all weekend because it wouldn't be out for another 6+ months.


By the time the Holidays roll around the console will have BotW, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8, and plenty of smaller titles. Any kinks currently going on will have been worked out. The OS will have received more features.

Those of us right now with a Switch are the earlier adopters. We get to play with our new toy before others, but we also have to deal with some of the cons that come with getting the latest tech when it is brand new. The fact that the system is selling so well in mid March with basically only Zelda, a barebones UI, and some potential hardware defects means that it is primed for a great Holiday.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:34 am to
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Pretty sure that is first week sales for PS4 compared to weekend sales for Switch.

Also, as others have noted, the PS4 launched at different times in different regions while the Switch had a global launch.

And the PS4 released shortly before Holiday season, so sales would be inflated. Sony probably planned this and made sure they had enough units. Nintendo also could have done this, but then I wouldn't have been playing on my Switch all weekend because it wouldn't be out for another 6+ months.



Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. The ps4 in just 1 day crushed it in America. I was looking at the early UK numbers, which is a pretty small sample size. I was just trying to say I guess I can see why the switch did not have as many units available. They may not have expected it to sell as much as it has. But it still is not acceptable IMO.

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Friday was a banner day for Sony's video game division, with the company announcing over the weekend that it sold 1 million units of the newly launched PlayStation 4 in North America during its first 24 hours on store shelves. By our reckoning, that's the best first-day performance ever for a video game console on this side of the pond, easily besting the 600,000 Wiis Nintendo sold in its first eight days on North American store shelves in 2006.


So even if the first two days were better than the Wii, no way it was close to the ps4.

Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:38 am to
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Sony also staggered the launch though. By focusing on fewer regions, I think they were able to get a better handle of the stock situation.


Launched first in America right? With best day one sales ever right?

While it may have helped them with the stagger they clearly had their shite together.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:38 am to
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Pretty sure that is first week sales for PS4 compared to weekend sales for Switch.


Sales are tracked by Sunday to Saturday. First Week sales NEVER refers to the first 7 days on the market, but the sales for that week's tracking period. Every time.

It's a straight 1:1 comparison.

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Launched first in America right? With best day one sales ever right? While it may have helped them with the stagger they clearly had their shite together.

It was North America, Western Europe, and handful of other countries. While it suffered in Japan for its launch by doing it late, it was the correct move overall.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 8:41 am
Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
72037 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:07 pm to
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Friend of mine went to Toys R Us today and they were sitting on 30 units. He didn't end up getting one, but said there wasn't a line or anything.


I called everywhere near me. None had any. Some people work on Fridays.

I'm just not going to get one. They have done this before. Ship enough the first go round.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:11 pm to
I'm going to bump this thread because frick Nintendo
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:38 pm to
Up your game bruh
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:03 am to
The new executive at Nintendo of Japan said they would not release the switch at a loss. Which essentially means less units in hope of more sales and less of a hit overall.


I would expect the sales to skyrocket by about summer. Super Mario Odyssey releases sort of late this year, Splatoon 2 comes out this summer, the Zelda DLC releases in winter this year, and a whole bunch of other stuff. It may be weak compared to the PS4, but once the first party titles bring in the sales, more Nier Automata type AAA game titles will roll in. I think Satoru Iwata's successor was a good choice. Dude's entire background for a few decades is finance and and banking. Satoru Iwata was a genius programmer, but a top notch CEO objectively he was not. He was very much the video game industry equivalent of a player's coach though.


Gonna be a sad day when the likes of Shigeru, Eiji and Sakurai aren't in the business anymore
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27114 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:54 am to
The Switch is selling at the same pace as the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 at launch, so this manufactured supply conspiracy has no legs at all.

Also I am willing to believe people are getting lucky and walking into one here and there, but many here claim to be up the road from some retailer that happens to be sitting on 30 of these things every day is just bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
40812 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:01 am to
The Wal-Mart near me had 8 sitting on a shelf out in the open. I thought about it but still couldn't justify buying one just for Zelda :( .
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26127 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:06 am to
There were two at Walmart in Eunice as late as Sunday. They were the two that were ordered last week. Probably gone now but I would check Walmart if you really want one.

So far one of the best consoles I've owned. Very happy with it. A lot of that has to do with Zelda being arguably the best game of all time being portable and TV.

But honestly I would be happy with JUST Nintendo IPs since I skipped the WiiU. Throw Metroid, Smash, Donkey Kong, etc, hell even a Luigi Mansion sequel, and watch the sales.

Third Party I have a ps4.

Xenoblade looks incredible

The Switch is the real deal.
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