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re: The Witcher 4 Reveal Trailer
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:24 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:24 am to Corinthians420
quote:She was a Witcher, just not a real witcher
He didn't refer to Ciri as a witcher in his writings?
That is the difference between a "witcher" and a witcher, She didn't undego the trials, and she never went through the mutations.
But, as I have stated, why would she have needed to? I refer back to my "giving Superman a 9mm" or "giving the Hulk a baseball bat" argument.
It makes the sheer concept of subjecting her to the trials silly, at best. Why run the risk of almost certain death for something that provides her no real benefit?
As previously stated:
-Ciri being a Witcher will take great writing to put forth, and I am open to it
-Ciri undergoing the trial of grasses, and I am out.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 8:26 am
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:34 am to Roaad
quote:
-Ciri being a Witcher will take great writing to put forth, and I am open to it
-Ciri undergoing the trial of grasses, and I am out
Weird line to draw on unless you are just looking for something to point at to blame on why you are out. The trials are in the lore as forgotten knowledge at the time we get to Geralts stories in the books. Maybe they discover some of the knowledge that was lost and it's simple to make female witchers if you tweak one herb out for another.
Maybe it's as simple as abandoned girls were sent to be sorceresses and the boys were sent to be witchers
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:36 am to Corinthians420
quote:What I would expect from someone unfamiliar with the source material.
Weird line to draw
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:46 am to Roaad
Based off all we have discussed it seems you are considering your head-canon as source, you still haven't showed anything in the real life source material that says a female can't be a witcher, nor that a female can't survive the trials.
you agreed with me that there were not any attempts to subject women to the trial in the books because they tested them on boys and could find boys they worked on without the need.
If i've learned anything from this entire debate it's that you are one of those people that care more about being right than finding the truth. it's your life, do what you want.
you agreed with me that there were not any attempts to subject women to the trial in the books because they tested them on boys and could find boys they worked on without the need.
If i've learned anything from this entire debate it's that you are one of those people that care more about being right than finding the truth. it's your life, do what you want.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:52 am to Corinthians420
quote:
Corinthians420
Theres no sense arguing with you. You desperately want to play as a girl so you can live out your fantasies of running around and having sex with random men in a video game.
Congrats this game was made for people like you.
If the author had wanted female witchers, hed have written them as he had plenty of capable female characters in his stories.
One of the main themes in the books was that the world needed witchers much less than before.
Ciri didnt call herself a witcher girl because she wanted to slay monsters for money, she did because Geralt, Eskel, Lambert, Coen and Vesemir was all she had left until Triss and Yennefer came along.
Youd know all this if you had actually read the books and not just looked up talking points from "gaygamers" reddit
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:38 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:
If the author had wanted female witchers, hed have written them as he had plenty of capable female characters in his stories
He did. Who do you think wrote the books where Geralt calls ciri "Witcher"
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:46 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:
Youd know all this if you had actually read the books and not just looked up talking points from "gaygamers" reddit
You are probably the only person that knew that sub reddit existed.
I listened to the audiobooks multiple times when I played the witcher 3 the first time almost a decade ago. Unlike you I'd rather verify info from the actual text before I go spouting bs. If you had read the books you'd know that Ciri is referred to as a Witcher girl in them. And as for her training, they were giving her herbs to enhance her, that's why triss got pissed, she said it would mess up her body.
Is the reason you constantly talk about trans and gay shite that it makes you feel better about fricking your cousin? I've never met anyone as obsessed with that disgusting shite as you.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 6:41 am to Corinthians420
Was that trailer not one of the exact missions from the witcher 3? Geralt comes up on a village that has to pay tribute to this monster. The monster being this thing living under a hill in a cave thats grown into the tree roots. I think he even fights a spider.
Anyway he has two choices to make. Let the village people make the sacrifice or kill the monster and everyone dies? Am i wrong?
Anyway he has two choices to make. Let the village people make the sacrifice or kill the monster and everyone dies? Am i wrong?
Posted on 12/25/24 at 6:57 am to Tigermite
I played the eldritch one the other day and u could either make the girl get kicked out of the village or some goons started some shite and u had to kill em all
Posted on 12/25/24 at 10:50 am to Tigermite
quote:
Was that trailer not one of the exact missions from the witcher 3? Geralt comes up on a village that has to pay tribute to this monster. The monster being this thing living under a hill in a cave thats grown into the tree roots. I think he even fights a spider. Anyway he has two choices to make. Let the village people make the sacrifice or kill the monster and everyone dies? Am i wrong?
I think you’re talking about this quest?
LINK
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:35 pm to Joshjrn
yeah thats the one i was thinkin of
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:12 am to Corinthians420
quote:I consider the source material the source.
Based off all we have discussed it seems you are considering your head-canon as source
In the source material zero women undergo the trial of grasses
quote:You are partly right. We agreed on no women in the books were subjected to it. The rest you just made up.
you agreed with me that there were not any attempts to subject women to the trial in the books because they tested them on boys and could find boys they worked on without the need.
quote:Well that is just straight up projection. You are accusing me of what you are doing
If i've learned anything from this entire debate it's that you are one of those people that care more about being right than finding the truth.
Cute meme, though
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:15 am to Tigermite
quote:Yes, and a nice callback
Was that trailer not one of the exact missions from the witcher 3?
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:12 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:41 am to Roaad
quote:
I consider the source material the source.
In the source material zero women undergo the trial of grasses
Just because something hasn't happened in the limited scope covered in the books doesn't mean it is impossible. Not sure how that is confusing to you.
If the source material claimed it was impossible that would be different.
The fantasy genre is full of examples of the "hero" being the first person capable of doing things that were seemingly impossible. Ciri is literally a superhero that can warp through time and dimensions, yet you think the trial of grasses would be beyond her abilities because she's a female
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:19 am to Corinthians420
Dude y’all should get a room and just frick
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:24 am to td01241
Hell it's hilarious to me at this point. Roaad needs to fly to Poland and explain to them how they don't understand that it's impossible for a female with superpowers to undergo a trial that we have little knowledge of because they quit making witchers decades before the source material.
Id wager Roaad hasn't even read the books in their original language but he is here claiming to have knowledge those that have (including the author) do not.
Id wager Roaad hasn't even read the books in their original language but he is here claiming to have knowledge those that have (including the author) do not.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:50 pm to Corinthians420
Yeah I’m gonna guess almost, lke 99% of those who have read them here did so in English. We aren’t as cultured as you. The Witcher isn’t an overly complex story. It isn’t game of thrones.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:59 pm to td01241
I certainly didn't read them in polish, which is why I'm not trying to tell them that their story for the next game is impossible.
It was impossible to travel between worlds and time before ciri did it multiple times including to save Geralts life. I don't know why the trials would be any different.
Since u brought up game of thrones, magic had died from the world and it was impossible to hatch any more dragon eggs until Dany did it.
It's a fantasy world.
Yes and Sapkowski has stated that the world only exists to tell the story of Geralt and ciri. If ciris story is becoming more of a Witcher (he already called her a Witcher in the books) and undergoing the Trials the world can evolve to fit that.
Just like when he brought back Geralt in the season of storms epilogue after a 14 year hiatus from releasing a Witcher book
It was impossible to travel between worlds and time before ciri did it multiple times including to save Geralts life. I don't know why the trials would be any different.
Since u brought up game of thrones, magic had died from the world and it was impossible to hatch any more dragon eggs until Dany did it.
It's a fantasy world.
quote:
The Witcher isn’t an overly complex story. It isn’t game of thrones.
Yes and Sapkowski has stated that the world only exists to tell the story of Geralt and ciri. If ciris story is becoming more of a Witcher (he already called her a Witcher in the books) and undergoing the Trials the world can evolve to fit that.
Just like when he brought back Geralt in the season of storms epilogue after a 14 year hiatus from releasing a Witcher book
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:48 am to Corinthians420
Now you are merely obfuscation the point, for the sake of trying to save face.
We all agree on 3 key points;
1) there has never been a full female Witcher in the source material
2) the trial of grasses are magically and chemically designed for males
3) Andrzej Sapkowski certainly had no intention for women to be traditional Witchers. Academics have literally written volumes on his misogyny
So you are using the teeniest tiniest "but maybe" because he doesn't spell it out in an explicitly clear manner to exclude all possible one-off reads of the material?
You are an example of yet another TD poster trying to "not lose" an argument, despite knowing that I am right. Because we all know I am right. Your "but maybe" arguments are appeals to infinitesimal probabilities.
I'll just let you get the last word, since that is clearly what we all expect you are needing from this exchange.
So go ahead and "wow" us, son.
You have just read ABOUT them.
You are reliant on Reddit and wiki as has been established several times in this thread.
We all agree on 3 key points;
1) there has never been a full female Witcher in the source material
2) the trial of grasses are magically and chemically designed for males
3) Andrzej Sapkowski certainly had no intention for women to be traditional Witchers. Academics have literally written volumes on his misogyny
So you are using the teeniest tiniest "but maybe" because he doesn't spell it out in an explicitly clear manner to exclude all possible one-off reads of the material?
You are an example of yet another TD poster trying to "not lose" an argument, despite knowing that I am right. Because we all know I am right. Your "but maybe" arguments are appeals to infinitesimal probabilities.
I'll just let you get the last word, since that is clearly what we all expect you are needing from this exchange.
So go ahead and "wow" us, son.
quote:the difference between you and I, is I have read them at all in ANY language.
Id wager Roaad hasn't even read the books in their original language
You have just read ABOUT them.
You are reliant on Reddit and wiki as has been established several times in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 3:55 am
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